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Postby ItalianJob on Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:49 pm

I wonder why there is no LG 4166 reviews ?

I'm quite pleased by this drive with the last 1.01 firmware, and wonder why there is no review available anywhere ?

Some good burns I've done so far :

A Plextor DVD-R 8X in case burned @8X, scan done on a BenQ 1620 :
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A Verbatim DVD+R 16X (MCC004) printable in case, made in Taiwan :
LG 4166 1.01 burn :
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Scan done on a BenQ 1620 :
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Postby Scour on Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:34 pm

Hello!

The burns looks very good :)

4166 are rare, only know the 2166 (external) at Cdrlabs, but with 1.00

I heard rumors that newest 4166 have already 1.02-FW
Benq DW 1640 and 1650 , Plextor PX-755, Pioneer BDR-208 and 209D, LG GH24NSC0, LG BH16NS40 and 16NS55, Liteon ihas 124F and 324F, Pioneer DVR-215 and S21, Samsung SH-224DB and 224GB, and some more

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Postby Ian on Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:28 pm

I've had the drive for a few months. After experiencing the 2166's less than stellar performance, I figured I'd give LG a chance to fix things. Now.. I'm just waiting for them to put out an official firmware update.

Which reminds me. I should email them, asking wtf is going on with their firmware updates.. or should I say the lack there of.
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Postby ItalianJob on Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:21 pm

Scour wrote:Hello!

The burns looks very good :)

4166 are rare, only know the 2166 (external) at Cdrlabs, but with 1.00

I heard rumors that newest 4166 have already 1.02-FW


4166 rare ? Not so rare here in France :
http://www.i-comparateur.com/acheter-x10p0026422.htm
http://www.prixdunet.com/details/LG_GSA4166/

Yeah, drives from december come with 1.02 firmware (seen @ www.actualis.com & "Computer Broker" store in Paris).
The public release seems to be (very) near as far as I know.

By the way, the last ala42's MCSE support 4164 & 4166 drives (they have the same bootcode & are the same).

What else ? My little daughter loves LS :P :
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Postby Scour on Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:26 pm

ItalianJob wrote:4166 rare ? Not so rare here in France


Sorry, I meant reviews of the 4166 are rare
Benq DW 1640 and 1650 , Plextor PX-755, Pioneer BDR-208 and 209D, LG GH24NSC0, LG BH16NS40 and 16NS55, Liteon ihas 124F and 324F, Pioneer DVR-215 and S21, Samsung SH-224DB and 224GB, and some more

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Postby Wesociety on Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:18 am

Hmmm, I'm still suspicious of overall write quality since the drive uses a Panasonic chipset...
I look forward to the review Ian.
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Postby ItalianJob on Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:10 am

Wesociety wrote:Hmmm, I'm still suspicious of overall write quality since the drive uses a Panasonic chipset...
I look forward to the review Ian.


Yeah, a Panasonic MN103 chipset is used in LG 4164 and LG 4166 :
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LG 4163 / 4165 and 4167 use Renesas chipset (4167) :
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What was used by the 4160 ? And was the 4160 a good drive ?
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Postby dodecahedron on Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:38 am

Wesociety wrote:Hmmm, I'm still suspicious of overall write quality since the drive uses a Panasonic chipset...
I look forward to the review Ian.

is there reason to think that a Panasonic chipset is no good (bad writing quality) ?
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Postby Ian on Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:57 am

dodecahedron wrote:is there reason to think that a Panasonic chipset is no good (bad writing quality) ?


Maybe because Panasonic's own drives don't deliver good writing quality?
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Postby ItalianJob on Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:21 am

Ian wrote:
dodecahedron wrote:is there reason to think that a Panasonic chipset is no good (bad writing quality) ?


Maybe because Panasonic's own drives don't deliver good writing quality?


I've only had a bad burn with 1.01 firmware and it was on a Memorex 8X RitekG05 crap (that didn't burn also on PX-716UF 1.09). Maybe LG firmware's developers did a good job ?
Or maybe Panasonic are better now. It's possible...
This has nothing to do with Panasonic, but I see that last Liteon's drives are getting better & better. Seems more & more difficult to find a very bad 16X burner now.
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Postby Wesociety on Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:54 pm

Along with Panasonic's own drives, the Teac/BenQ DQ60 with a Panasonic chipset had not so good writing quality.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:03 pm

Wesociety wrote:Along with Panasonic's own drives, the Teac/BenQ DQ60 with a Panasonic chipset had not so good writing quality.


Yeah, the whole chipset seems to suck! :o
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Postby Scour on Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:09 pm

Wesociety wrote:Along with Panasonic's own drives, the Teac/BenQ DQ60 with a Panasonic chipset had not so good writing quality.


Saw some good scans from 4166-burned media. Looks like the LG had the best writing quality, other drives with Panasonic-chipsets like Benq DQ 60 lloks not so good.
Benq DW 1640 and 1650 , Plextor PX-755, Pioneer BDR-208 and 209D, LG GH24NSC0, LG BH16NS40 and 16NS55, Liteon ihas 124F and 324F, Pioneer DVR-215 and S21, Samsung SH-224DB and 224GB, and some more

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Postby ItalianJob on Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:44 pm

The chipset is only the brain of the optical drive, not the eye... I think there is a chance the LG 4166 has still a good optical part in it.

Some more good burn I saw :

- YUDEN T02 @8X with firmware 1.00
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- A DVD-R 8X (TYG02) @8X burned on a LG 4166 fw 1.01 and scanned on a NEC @ 5X
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- A burn I did : a Yuden T01 (Maxell in case) DVD+R 4X @ 4X :
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Scan on my old BenQ 1620 :
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- A Datawrite DVD+R 8X in spindle @ 8X
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Scan :
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Want more ? :wink:
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:38 pm

That's weird to see it jump from 4x to 8x recording on the burn speed graph. Isn't there usually a jump to 6x (or it just starts at 6x)??
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Postby ItalianJob on Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:42 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:That's weird to see it jump from 4x to 8x recording on the burn speed graph. Isn't there usually a jump to 6x (or it just starts at 6x)??


8X Z-CLV (4X-8X) :-?
Strange decision... I takes 9 min for a 8X burn.

But 16X CAV 8)
I takes < 6 min for a full 16X burn (and I know the 4167 did a bit better Ian :P because of P-CAV)
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Postby Scour on Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:20 am

Hello!

The quality looks good, maybe the LG-guys do a good fine-tuning with newer FWs
Benq DW 1640 and 1650 , Plextor PX-755, Pioneer BDR-208 and 209D, LG GH24NSC0, LG BH16NS40 and 16NS55, Liteon ihas 124F and 324F, Pioneer DVR-215 and S21, Samsung SH-224DB and 224GB, and some more

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