[buck] wrote:If you don't *need* that 8.5GB capacity, you'd probably be better off with standard single layer discs. They're far cheaper, they're more reliable, and there's far more selection.
Xar wrote:[buck] wrote:If you don't *need* that 8.5GB capacity, you'd probably be better off with standard single layer discs. They're far cheaper, they're more reliable, and there's far more selection.
Well, the whole purpose of me investing in a PX-716UF was so that I could actually use it to burn 8.5 GB discs. I have a need for large amounts of static offline storage, and this seemed to be a good way to go.
After the Verbatim recommendation, I ended up buying two of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817131163
I haven't received them yet of course. Do you guys think that is a good choice for what I'm trying to do? (UDF Format Data CDs)
Xar wrote:With the Plextor firmware version I'm using (v.1.09) it says I should be able to burn DVD+/-R at 6X CLV. That's a big bonus for me as waiting an hour (2.4X writing) to burn then verify data on each cd before I remove files from my hard drive is a big hassle.
[buck] wrote:I will warn you though, I hope you're not doing any serious archiving on these, because, franckly, recordable DL media just isn't suitable for archival.
[buck] wrote:EDIT: the newegg picture says 2.4X, but the description says 8X. Let us know what you get.
[buck] wrote:Well, if you do get 8X media, you'll be fine burning them at 8X. If they're 2.4X, 4X is the best choice.
Xar wrote:Well it's not like it's a business purpose... here's what I'm doing. I create AVI files of TV shows with my DVR. Once I have a whole season, I burn them all to multiple DVDs. Each episode is about 350 MB. For instance my Star Trek Voyager collection is about 50 GB total. I don't really want to lose any data but it's not like I'll be severely impacted by a data loss. I am, however, concerned about your last statement. If DVD DL writable media is marketed and you're able to produce a good copy (verifying data) should not that copy be good forever assuming the DVD doesn't get physically damaged in some way?
Xar wrote:I should receive them around Wednesday or Thursday of this week. I'll be sure to let you know the specifics of what happens when I get them. Thanks for your advice and time.
Xar wrote:8X is not an option. Would you recommend 6X as the best alternative if they are really 8X capable media?
[buck] wrote:Any non-defective media will be able to produce a "good copy", as you put it. However, no recordable media lasts "forever". All write-once, recordable DVDR media use organic dyes, which degrades on its own. And this is just the tip of the iceberg of how media can fail!
Xar wrote:Gosh. Going a little off topic here but I'm surprised. I was under the impression that if I go out and buy a DVD (retail) with movie on it that DVD should pretty much last forever (i.e. 20+ years). I ASSUMED that DVD writable media - the kind we home users purchase - would have that same kind of lifetime. What is the difference between the lifetimes of commercially produced DVDs (which are dual layer) and the kind we burn at home (of similar capacity)?
Xar wrote:Wow guys look at this.
That link shows my horrible RITEK D01 that are instacoasters whenever I try to burn a UDF 8.5 GB DVD.
I can't believe Plextor even mentions them as compatible!! Grr!
Xar wrote:Understood Buck, thanks again for the clarification! I can't wait for my Verbatims to arrive... I'm eager to try them out.
Incidentally is there such a thing as DVD+/-R DL RW?
[buck] wrote:Not really. JVC is trying to push DVD-RW DL really hard, but there still isn't a single drive that supports DVD-RW DL!!
[buck] wrote:What media (brand, media code) have you been using to date?
Xar wrote:I figured DVD would be a good/cheap/fast alternative to lower capacity tape drives but it sounds as if the DL stuff is so new that long term data integrity (especially for UDF format DVDs) might be in question. Oh well... there's no way I could fit all my DVDs back on my hard drives. I have two terabytes of local storage in addition to my system raid, one terabyte array backs up the other, so in effect only 1 TB. I guess I shouldn't be such a data/movie/tvshow packhound.
frank1 wrote:I think that you should read this:
« Will BD-R discs be A LOT BETTER for long time archiving ? »
and think about it when the technology will be available to the public for a reasonable price ...
Xar wrote:Incidentally is there such a thing as DVD+/-R DL RW?
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