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Best burner for a computer lab environment?

Postby Justin42 on Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:05 pm

Ok, this isn't a totally newbie-esque question, I hope.

At work, we're looking to buy 2-4 DVD burners to have them around a computer lab for graduate students. We don't expect them to get a ton of use, but as faculty members start moving towards a more 'multimedia' experience, we are expecting creation of DVDs might become more of an issue. (I'm not even thinking about the hardware/software video editing portion yet)

I'm just trying to figure out what burners are very reliable, able to handle poor treatment (like shoving in the door to close the tray on a repeated basis), and most importantly, able to handle a wide variety of crappy media. No matter how much you try to teach the students, they bring in the worst possible blank CD-Rs/CD-RWs, so I can imagine DVDs will be even worse. (I'm expecting to see a lot of Memorex) Plus, we won't know if they're bringing in +Rs or -Rs so it needs to be able to handle both fairly well...

I know in the past the Pioneers have been pretty good at burning low-quality DVD-Rs, but their +R performance isn't too hot. I have been thinking NEC or Benq; Plextor is a bit too pricy (not to mention to wild variances in 716A quality, and I'm pissed at their Linux stand). I've been leaning towards the Benq but it's harder to find from our normal suppliers.

Any comments? Anyone have experience supporting DVD burning in a lab?
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Postby Scour on Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:19 pm

Hello!

I don´t know what´s the big difference when burning in or outside a lab :wink:

If you are afraid of broken trays you must wait for the expensive Plextor 716 slot-in-Version.

If you looking for a drive that can handle cheap media well I recommend a Pioneer 109 or NEC 35x.-drive. The NEC-drive is better for CD-R-media, the Pioneer read bad DVD´s better.
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Postby eric93se on Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:33 pm

well if your on a budget and want good quality, then go with the NEC 3540. Right now its $43 shipped for the black version at newegg. Whatever you decide on, make sure its the latest version since there's very little difference in price.
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Postby Justin42 on Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:57 pm

Sounds like NEC is promising. :)

My biggest thought in the difference for a lab is looking for good reliability, and good quality burns on a wide variety of mostly crappy media. Like I said, when people bring in blank CDRs, I see Memorex 90% of the time, and generic Fry's media another 5% or so of the time. Since we don't have control over what people buy and bring in I need a burner that isn't picky in the slightest.

Basically-- this isn't a burner for me that I will know, or learn, how to baby and give it exactly the media it wants, that is appropriate. It needs to hold up to some (slight, I hope!) abuse and burn whatever it's given and create a usable disc, even if it's not an ideal burn.
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Postby RJW on Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:08 pm

Well memorex is not allways bad. It's just they use much different manufacturers and some are quite crappy and some are good.
Problem is you don't know what you get when you buy.
NEC 3540 does burn very nice according to the results so far. Seems to be the best with most stuff. (Benq 1640 might be nice if you know that the memorex are CMC however with memorex you never know. 4 batches means most times 4 different manufacturers or at least mid codes.)

But does any folks know if the tray also can handle some roughness.
Because some of the older NEC cd-writers/cd-roms felt quite cheap when it came to the tray.
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Postby eric93se on Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:31 pm

He's not dealing with high school or junior high students, graduate students are smart enough (for the most part) not to rough up a dvd drive. (coming from a recently graduated grad student).
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Postby Ian on Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:50 pm

At work I just ordered about 110 Dell Optiplex GX620's.. all with NEC ND-3530's in them. This is the first time I've ordered DVD writers so it will be interesting to see what happens. I'm expecting our labs to become movie copy central. :roll:

They're all covered under warranty so I don't really care if they get destroyed. Just remember that no matter what brand you buy, they will get broken.
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Postby Justin42 on Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:40 pm

Were you able to order the NECs through Dell, or are they aftermarket/vendor added? I've never seen the option to get specific brands on Dell's Premiere site...
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Postby Ian on Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:24 pm

Justin42 wrote:Were you able to order the NECs through Dell, or are they aftermarket/vendor added? I've never seen the option to get specific brands on Dell's Premiere site...


That's what Dell currently includes with the Optiplex line.

As far as grad students beating on computers.. Around here, they are some of the worst. From my experience, they use them the more than undergrads and have no respect for them since they're not theirs.
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Postby hoxlund on Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:12 pm

slot loading plextor's where do i sign?
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Postby Scour on Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:31 pm

hoxlund wrote:slot loading plextor's where do i sign?


http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a148570.html

If I can believe some shops (I´m really not sure If I can) then it´s avaible in the next 2 weeks
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Postby hoxlund on Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:47 pm

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Postby Justin42 on Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:17 pm

Ian wrote:
Justin42 wrote:Were you able to order the NECs through Dell, or are they aftermarket/vendor added? I've never seen the option to get specific brands on Dell's Premiere site...


That's what Dell currently includes with the Optiplex line.

As far as grad students beating on computers.. Around here, they are some of the worst. From my experience, they use them the more than undergrads and have no respect for them since they're not theirs.


Yeah, we see that sometimes, although we bang it into their heads to treat them nicely. It's the PhD-students we have the most issues with.

I should have asked Dell what they include in the Precisions. I did some reading and it sounded like crappy OEM sort of setup, usually Philips. Oh well, it gives me the flexibility to buy anything. :)
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Postby SkaarjMaster on Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:37 pm

Sounds like you need to get two NEC 3540As and two Pioneers. If they have crappy CDs then use the NEC and if crappy DVDs then the Pioneer!
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Postby Ian on Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:40 pm

You're right. According to their support website its a Philips DVD8631 HH 16X DVD+/-RW
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