I'm a little surprised that you didn't see the results for C2 accuracy on the page I linked to. Yes, the main testing is for error correction abilities, but the software also checks the C2 accuracy of the drive. This is done with special media which is damaged on purpose in order to discover how the drive will handle it. Please read the page over again a little more thouroughly.
yes, i understand all that.
OK, i did read the page over again more thoroughly.
reference to C2 error reporting is this:
The reported C2% accuracy is also high.
this is not at all clear, and not at all descriptive of how it is tested etc. i presume this references the line in the table named "C2 accuracy".
in the 52x roundup vol. 1 there is some discussion of the C2 error correction testing, but nothing about C2 reporting. like i said these tests vary somewhat from one review to the other. and in the newer review, where there is "C2 accuracy", there is no mention of what this is and how it's tested. just this very sentence i quoted. so forgive me for being rather skeptical about this piece of information.
moreover, if you insist on comparing the Plextor Premium and the Lite-On (even thought it's not really a Lite-On - read below), well in the 52x roundup vol. 1 where the Sony is tested there is no "C2 accuracy", so how can you claim to compare the two drives ????? you have this dubious "C2 accuracy" figure for the Plex only sow how can you claim that the Lite-On is better ????????
so once again i say:you have not provided information supporting your claim that the Lite-On's error reporting capabilities are better than the Plextor's
as for results on a LiteON drive's C2 accuracy: The Sony 52 model *IS* the same hardware as the LiteON 52x24x52x drive, which is also the same hardware as the LiteON 48x24x48x drive, which ALSO the same hardware as the LiteON 48x12x48x drive (the LTR 48126S). And I see very little reason why the results would differ. The LiteON/Sony 52x drive scored 99.99% on average (usually100%) on all the tests.
OK this argument again.
contrary to what everyone is saying, i still haven't seen proof
that the two drives are the same. being able to flash one drive with another drive's firmware is not proof
that they have the same hardware, contrary to what you may think. if you think this is proof, fine. i do not.
buy the two drives, open them up and examine the hardware - now that's proof.
the Sony uses a different firmware, and in that particular review it wasn't even official firmware but hacked.
if you consider a 48x24x48x drive, that isn't definitely
know to be indentical hardware, with a hacked firmware, considered by you to be the same
drive as a Lite-On 52246S, all i can say is that it appears that i have higher standards than you when it comes to testing methodology.
let anyone who is reading our discussion decide for himself.
dolphinius_rex wrote:I backed up my statement, and I'm sure most would agree with the results I linked to. Feel free to believe what you want to however.
from my replies it is obvious that i do not agree that "you have backed up your arguments". let me recall your original statement:
dolphinius_rex wrote:let's deal with the mistake first: STOP TESTING ON THE PLEXTOR, it doesn't return C2 errors as accuratly as the liteON, you may not like to admit this, but it is a fact.
dolphinius_rex wrote:ok, I made a partial mistake there. Plextor returns C2 errors properly 80% of the time when using normal software, however when using Plextools the premium drive returns roughly 100% which is on par with the LiteONs... however this is only true for the Premium drive, not the previous models.
if you feel that you have, fine. as for me, i require somewhat more convincing apparently, i am not convinced by you yet. the "proof" you claim to have provided is'nt proof by my standards. like i said above, anyone who's reading this can decide for themselves if your "proof" is enough for them. i don't know if "most" would agree with you...but that's up to them.