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Beware Samsung SW-252B !

Postby DeathStalker77 on Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:25 pm

At this point (firmware v7.02), there are some SERIOUS problems with this drive. CDRLabs has already documented the problem with JustSpeed, but there appears to be a problem with JustLink on this unit as well. For a unit that has a built-in 8mb buffer as well as JustLink, ANY Buffer Underrun should be impossible.

Ahhh, but no so with this one - which is unfortunate, because otherwise, it's a very good drive - almost on par with the Sony 225A and the LiteOn LTR-52327S. I'd post the screenshots of the Buffer Underruns (even at 32x!), but there's no option :(

FWIW, I've notified Samsung of the issue. We'll see about this unit going back to BestBuy for an exchange (and price match!) for the Lite On :roll:

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Postby eliminator on Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:36 pm

... price match with what drive ?


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Postby Ian on Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:03 pm

Please give us more information on your JustLink problems.
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Postby DeathStalker77 on Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:14 pm

Ian:

The JustLink feature doesn't seem to be enabled - I get Buffer Underruns - what additional info are you looking for?


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PriceMatch with online prices for the LiteOn :D I expect they'll do it - they've gone to that length before.


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Postby eliminator on Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:17 pm

they never did it @ my local stores.. $79.99 for the Lite-On :(
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Postby DeathStalker77 on Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:24 pm

Eliminator:

I know, most apparently won't. I happen to be quite lucky in that the managers at mine are VERY good. They're bringing in a new manager at this point, and he's the one who authorized the swap of the old AOpen 4048 (actually, it was really a generic DRTech 40x12x48 unit that I "upgraded" with the AOpen firmware). He authorized the return, even though the unit was almost 10 months old. Since I can get the Lite On for $39 shipped (PriceWatch), and the Samsung was about the same with the MIR, I expect he'll authorize the price match. Worst case, I return the Samsung and order the LiteOn online.

I've been REALL happy with Best Buy for the past year - spent almost $5k with them.

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Postby eliminator on Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:47 pm

oh I do like B.Buy in any case.
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Postby Ian on Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:55 pm

DeathStalker77 wrote:The JustLink feature doesn't seem to be enabled - I get Buffer Underruns - what additional info are you looking for?


Humor me here. What software (and version) are you using? Are you sure your coasters are being caused by buffer underruns?
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Postby DeathStalker77 on Mon Sep 15, 2003 6:30 pm

Software is Nero 5.5.10x - yes, the Nero error specified Buffer underrun - I'd post the image, but have no way of doing so.

Unfortunately, $39 is below BB's cost for the LiteOn, so I ended up ordering it from US-Depot.com and will just return the Samsung.

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Postby CDRecorder on Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:34 pm

My AOpen RW5224 OEM drive (JustLink) sometimes had "buffer underruns" in Nero, even though DMA was obviously enabled, and the data flow wasn't the problem. I think the drive was just picky with media.

I can use my LTR-52327S just fine at 52x on the same PC. The writing quality is better, too. :D
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Postby Harrier on Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:10 am

Try hiting Alt+Print Screen when the Buffer problem accours.
Than Paste to some image editing software.
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Postby DeathStalker77 on Tue Sep 16, 2003 12:15 pm

Harrier:

I >HAVE< the pics - I just have no ability at this point to post them here, as the forum does not support pictures directly (they have to be linked from an external source).

CDRecorder:

I take it you mean that you think the "Buffer Underrun" error wasn't really indicative of an underrun, but an error that Nero could not otherwise identify (Nero pulling a Microsoft)?

I suppose that would be a question for Nero - and they are LOUSY at actually answering questions like that - I STILL have never seen a "proper" answer to their "Medium Speed Error". I wish there was a good alternative to Nero (yes, tried v6 - HATE it - tried NTI, don't like it very much - HATE all the VCD "image" type proggies - HATE Roxio - yes, I'm very opinionated :wink:

Guess the point is going to be moot now, since I ordered the LiteOn (not bad for $39.00 shipped + $4.99 for an extra year warranty - yeah, I almost didn't take the warranty, but I said what the heck). I'll be returning the Samsung to Best Buy as soon as I receive the LiteOn.

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Postby CDRecorder on Tue Sep 16, 2003 12:33 pm

You're right; I don't think it was really a buffer underrun. Maybe the Justlink drives report some types of write errors as "Buffer Underrun" errors even when some other type of error has actually occurred. In any case, I ended up returning the AOpen because of other issues.

Have you tried WinOnCD? I think that it must be the only burning software package you haven't tried yet. :wink: In any case, Nero 5.5 is currently my favorite CD burning program.
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