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Burning file names longer than 64 characters

Postby cfitz on Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:36 am

This was mentioned as a side-topic in the Saturday Night Special thread, but probably deserves its own thread. Has anyone had any success in burning files with names greater than 64 characters using WinOnCD? I guess this question really amounts to: does WinOnCD support Romeo?

I know it has an option to "allow 128-character filenames for NT" on the "Checking" tab of the ISO 9660 / Joliet properies dialog, but I haven't been able to get it accept anything longer than 64 characters (the Joliet limit) no matter what combination of settings I have used. The help file mentions the 128-character NT filename setting, but doesn't explain anything about it. And I keep getting prompted to change my filename to 64 characters or less.

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Postby Inertia on Mon Dec 16, 2002 9:20 pm

I have the same experience when trying the "128 character NT" option, even using WinXP. This appears to be a misleading option with an inadquate description in the help file.

For burning long file names, the best program(s) that I have found are the Prassi derivatives, such as Stomp Click'N Burn (and RecordNow MAX) and Sony CD Extreme, etc..

These and related programs allow burning a special Joliet extension described as follows: Microsoft Joliet - Up to 106 in filehame length, any ANSI char., plus DOS tree.

There is also another choice for: ISO Level 2 long - Up to 212 in length, any DOS (OEM) char. in file name

NTI CD Maker supports Romeo (up to 128 characters).
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Postby dodecahedron on Mon Dec 16, 2002 11:46 pm

thaks for the info, guys (thanks cfitz! :D )

Inertia, in your experience, burning data CDs with long file names (both types you described - the Joliet up to 106 chars; the ISO Level 2 long) with these burning programs you mentioned - are they readable on windows (at least XP) without any problems? do you know of any compatibility issues with such CDs? what are the limitations?
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Postby Inertia on Tue Dec 17, 2002 12:13 am

As far as I know, they both work, especially for long MP3 filenames. This is probably the most common use for the file name extensions.

See Burning Software That Supports Really, Really, Long Filenames - Does It Exist? for a user report with some tips and workarounds. :)
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Postby dodecahedron on Tue Dec 17, 2002 12:40 am

thanks, Inertia, for the answers and the link. :D :D :D
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Postby Inertia on Tue Dec 17, 2002 4:05 am

You're very welcome, dodecahedron. :)
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Postby Han on Tue Dec 17, 2002 7:54 am

Ok, let's clear things a little. :wink:

ISO 9660 + Joliet: Use for CDs. Joliet is a Windows standard for filenames up to 64 characters long; WinOnCD automatically creates corresponding ISO 9660 (short) filenames as well, to ensure maximum compatibility with other file systems such as UNIX and Macintosh.

ISO 9660 + Joliet + UDF: (UDF Bridge) Use for DVDs, and for CDs with long filenames which must be read on a variety of operating systems. UDF 1.02 is the standard file system for data DVDs. Macintosh systems 8.1 and later support it; there are drivers available for Linux and FreeBSD as well. The inclusion of a Joliet file system on the same disc ensures that all Windows systems will be able to read it.

ISO 9660 only: Recommended for specialist use only.

UDF only: Recommended for data DVDs only.

I've tested the options and found out you can use long file names under "ISO 9660 only" and when you use UDF. That applies for WinOnCD. I think I'll report "a bug" for not accepting "Long file names for NT (128 characters)" option.
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Postby cfitz on Sat Jan 04, 2003 4:48 pm

Here is a free little utility for finding overly long filenames and helping you rename them:

http://www.dcsoft.com/products/longff/longff.htm

Also, check out MP3BR Imager as recommended by Reg-da-Ripper:

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic. ... 7506#47506

It allows you to make ISO images with filenames up to 255 characters long (obviously not ISO-9660 standard) and physically order them in any manner you see fit. It is designed with an eye towards burning MP3 files, but isn't limited to MP3 files.

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