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Postby Nudicles on Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:52 pm

What brands besides Verbatim makes 8x DVD+RW media right now? I haven't been able to find the Verbatim media anywhere.

Or..

What 4x media will work at 8x with my NEC 16x DVDRW?
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Re: DVD+RW 8x Media

Postby Ian on Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:56 pm

Nudicles wrote:What 4x media will work at 8x with my NEC 16x DVDRW?


None. You need media rated at 8x to write at that speed.

I don't have any myself, but I've heard that Ridata/Ritek also has 8x +RW media.
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Postby Nudicles on Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:09 pm

Maxell 8x DVD+RW:
http://eenid.us/mxl-dvd-plus-rw.html

Well, that's the only thing I've been able to find for sale... Appears to be legit, I ordered one, will find out soon enough...
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Postby Wesociety on Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:33 am

Yep Ritek also has their 8x DVD+RWs and I believe they were the first to get "Philips certified" for 8x DVD+RWs.


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+RW:RITEK-008-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+RW] - [Not Available]
Manufacturer Name : [Manufacturer Not Found In Database]
Manufacturer ID : [RITEK]
Media Type ID : [008]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
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** INFO : Drive =
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+RW DVD+R DVD+R-DL
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-RW DVD-R
** INFO : Disc = [DVD+RW:RITEK-008-000]

** INFO : An Empty Writable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

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** WARNING : Drive Has Returned Incomplete 'Media Code'-Block
** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : 93 0f 04 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4b 00 00 00 30 30 38 00 20 ...RITEK...008.
0020 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0030 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0040 : 02 00 01 2e 70 54 00 5a 86 4a 03 30 00 52 a3 2c ....pT.Z.J.0.R.,
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00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0100 : 00 00 ..
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Postby RJW on Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:13 pm

No philips own 8x DVD+RW media was the first.
Still Ritek seems to have a done a ok job.
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Postby MadBurner on Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:13 pm

Is there any other more reputable places online selling this media?

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Postby Wesociety on Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:39 pm

RJW wrote:No philips own 8x DVD+RW media was the first.
Still Ritek seems to have a done a ok job.

You are correct.
I was thinking of an old press release that said they were the "First Taiwanese company" to get 8x DVD+RW discs certified by Philips... But I forgot about the "Taiwanese" portion.

Current 8x +RW media certified by Philips:
Philips wrote: (a) DVD+RW 4.7Gbytes speed 8 x

1. MID code PHILIPS type RW8
Produced by ODTC
2. MID code RITEK type 008
Produced by Ritek Corporation
3. MID code CMC MAG type W03
Produced by CMC Magnetics Corporation

(v) DVD+RW 4.7Gbytes speed 8x "Provisional Approval"

1. MID code RICOHJPN type W21
Designed by RICOH
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Postby burninfool on Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:11 pm

The "+R" format wins again:
First in SL at 16x
First in DL
First in RW at 8x
Why would anyone use "-R"?
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:58 pm

I still can't find any good 16x DVD+Rs, only 16x DVD-Rs. For this matter, I don't consider PHILIPSC16 to be good, and I don't like Verbatim's 16x DVD+Rs either.
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Postby RJW on Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:42 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:I still can't find any good 16x DVD+Rs, only 16x DVD-Rs. For this matter, I don't consider PHILIPSC16 to be good, and I don't like Verbatim's 16x DVD+Rs either.


Well I can hardly find any 16x DVD-R's. Only TY and MCC at a few online stores seem to be available to public at this time.
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Postby Nudicles on Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:31 pm

argh, turned out to be not so legit. they sent me 4x media.. blah.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:11 pm

Nudicles wrote:argh, turned out to be not so legit. they sent me 4x media.. blah.


That might be because Maxell uses the same part numbers for their products even when they are over taken by newer faster products.

In any case, I forwarded your link to Maxell and asked them for some samples. So it'll either result in getting some new 8x DVD+RWs, or having the site pressured by Maxell to display their media properly.
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Postby raygay27 on Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:34 pm

RJW wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:I still can't find any good 16x DVD+Rs, only 16x DVD-Rs. For this matter, I don't consider PHILIPSC16 to be good, and I don't like Verbatim's 16x DVD+Rs either.


Well I can hardly find any 16x DVD-R's. Only TY and MCC at a few online stores seem to be available to public at this time.


if u look at meritline online store, there r quite a no. of 16x +- media avail alredi.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:50 am

raygay27 wrote:
RJW wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:I still can't find any good 16x DVD+Rs, only 16x DVD-Rs. For this matter, I don't consider PHILIPSC16 to be good, and I don't like Verbatim's 16x DVD+Rs either.


Well I can hardly find any 16x DVD-R's. Only TY and MCC at a few online stores seem to be available to public at this time.


if u look at meritline online store, there r quite a no. of 16x +- media avail alredi.


And if you look at my profile window, you'll see I live in a completely different country then Meritline :wink:

Meritline is too expensive for my tastes anyways :lol:
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Postby Nudicles on Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:04 pm

wow, eEnid seems to have way better customer service than I had first imagined. After I emailed them about getting the wrong speed DVD+RWs, this was their reply:

Paul

So we can correct our inventory and find what we did wrong all we need is a
part number or the number of UPC (bar code) or enough information to
identify what was sent to you. As soon as we know we can send you the
correct product we will at no added cost to you (normally the same or next
day). Also, we will not need those DVDs back, they are your to keep.

Thank you for doing business with eEnid.

John Tangney, Agent
eEnid L L C
http://www.eenid.us
john@eenid.us


Spread the word, eEnid just shot to the top of my list. :D

Anyways, we'll see if they actually have the 8x DVD+RWs soon enough...
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:43 pm

Nudicles wrote:wow, eEnid seems to have way better customer service than I had first imagined. After I emailed them about getting the wrong speed DVD+RWs, this was their reply:

Paul

So we can correct our inventory and find what we did wrong all we need is a
part number or the number of UPC (bar code) or enough information to
identify what was sent to you. As soon as we know we can send you the
correct product we will at no added cost to you (normally the same or next
day). Also, we will not need those DVDs back, they are your to keep.

Thank you for doing business with eEnid.

John Tangney, Agent
eEnid L L C
http://www.eenid.us
john@eenid.us


Spread the word, eEnid just shot to the top of my list. :D

Anyways, we'll see if they actually have the 8x DVD+RWs soon enough...


As I said, the product numbers with Maxell media are the same from 2.4x to 4x to 8x, so they will likely find they sent you the correct product according to their system... but in reality, you get screwed. That's why many stores advertise 4x media when they actually ship out 8x media.
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Postby Nudicles on Wed May 04, 2005 9:58 pm

Just as a note, they ended up not having any 8x media.

But they did give me a full refund on my 4x. (which I kept for free)
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Postby raygay27 on Thu May 05, 2005 5:52 am

same thing happened to me.
they clarified and cancelled my order
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu May 05, 2005 9:55 am

No word from Maxell either. They probably thought I was crazy :lol:
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Postby RJW on Thu May 05, 2005 12:02 pm

raygay27 wrote:
if u look at meritline online store, there r quite a no. of 16x +- media avail alredi.


And if you look at my profile window, you'll see I live in a completely different country then Meritline :wink: [quote]
Hey weren't that the lines I should have posted ? :D

Here at the other site of the water we only seem to be able to get Verbatim DVD-R disc's easy. All the other stuff SONY, TDK, TY and RITEK is only sold at one or 2 stores at the moment. Still sony is trying to improve this.

For +R live is full of choices. Really for +R we have much options here.
More as your US folks it seems. Then again +R is more populair in the netherlands with Philips manipulating the market. (Remember the levy thingie.)
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