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hoxlund wrote:damn could have used one in my car
hoxlund wrote:what would you recommend for a '94 Lincoln Mark VIII, although im sure make and model don't have a whole lot to do with it
state of colorado btw
hoxlund wrote:thx for all the info, i really need a radar detector, i will more then likely go with the Passport X50
VEFF wrote:I personally prefer the Escort because:
1) It has the SmartCord with a built-in mute button that plugs into the lighter socket.
This way you don't have to lean forward while driving to mute false alerts (or real alerts for that matter).
SmartPlug: The RX65 is equipped with a SmartPlug cigarette lighter adapter with a coiled cord. The SmartPlug provides a convenient power-on LED indicator, an alert light, and an easy-to-reach Mute button.
MadBurner wrote:VEFF wrote:I personally prefer the Escort because:
1) It has the SmartCord with a built-in mute button that plugs into the lighter socket.
This way you don't have to lean forward while driving to mute false alerts (or real alerts for that matter).
The RX65 also has a built-in mute button![]()
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SmartPlug: The RX65 is equipped with a SmartPlug cigarette lighter adapter with a coiled cord. The SmartPlug provides a convenient power-on LED indicator, an alert light, and an easy-to-reach Mute button.
MB
MadBurner wrote:I went with the Bel RX65 for $244 shipped!
Thanks again for all the info VEFF!
MB
VEFF wrote:The only thing is that Bel, like Escort, does not honor its warranty on ebay and amazon purchases.
One of the first matches for RX65 on ebay is $244 shipped, and purports to offer a 1 years defective warranty (must be offered by the seller I guess).
VEFF wrote:I also just saw a case of false/misleading advertising by one seller.
He put "X50" in his title, not something like "not X50" and then two days after the auction started he added info to his listing, probably due to questions from potential buyers, and now mentions that it is not an x50 and that the "x50" is just in the title for searching purposes, hmmmmmm.........
MadBurner wrote:VEFF wrote:The only thing is that Bel, like Escort, does not honor its warranty on ebay and amazon purchases.
One of the first matches for RX65 on ebay is $244 shipped, and purports to offer a 1 years defective warranty (must be offered by the seller I guess).
Yeah, that was a concern of mine too but so far I have never had to file a warranty claim on any of my previous Bel radar detectors so hopefully I won't need to file one this time. He mentions something about an extended warranty but claims that buyers are eligible for the manufacturer's 1 year warrranty. I'm awaiting a response from Bel to confirm this.VEFF wrote:I also just saw a case of false/misleading advertising by one seller.
He put "X50" in his title, not something like "not X50" and then two days after the auction started he added info to his listing, probably due to questions from potential buyers, and now mentions that it is not an x50 and that the "x50" is just in the title for searching purposes, hmmmmmm.........
I can't tell you how many times I've seen this type of advertising on eBay! Very deceptive indeed
wicked1 wrote:time for my 2 cents on radar detectors as I live by them as many of you who have read on here a while know. I bought a Bel 980,Escort 8500 and a valentine one to try them all out to see which one worked best. The Bel 980 I didnt like due the falses. The escort 8500 was great for falses however I also got 2 instant on Ka band tickets that the escort never even alarmed on. The valentine one which I still have did false more often but it points to where its coming from so you can decide if its a threat. Plus the same cop that got me with the escort twice never got me with the valentine one. I definately prefer the escort for looks and display however its performance was sub par. I also use a uniden beartracker that alerts you of police within 3 miles or so even without radar guns plus has a built in scanner.(yes I have a HAM license) I may give the new escort a whirl with their 30 day test drive policy but I must admit my valentine one has saved my license a few times.
When filling out the warranty info on your new radar detector, if you mention eBay or the price you paid, the manufacturer will not honor the one year warranty. From what I understand, they do not warranty any detector that was purchased for less than retail and they do not warranty any detector that was purchased on eBay.
However, the place of purchase and the purchase price is not required by the manufacturer to get their one year warranty. So, if you leave that information blank, you will not have any problems if you ever need your detector repaired.
VEFF wrote:It should be noted that Bel and Escort are basically one company now; that explains the (same) SmartCord being used on both the Bel Pro and the Escort Passport.
VEFF wrote:wicked1 wrote:time for my 2 cents on radar detectors as I live by them as many of you who have read on here a while know. I bought a Bel 980,Escort 8500 and a valentine one to try them all out to see which one worked best. The Bel 980 I didnt like due the falses. The escort 8500 was great for falses however I also got 2 instant on Ka band tickets that the escort never even alarmed on. The valentine one which I still have did false more often but it points to where its coming from so you can decide if its a threat. Plus the same cop that got me with the escort twice never got me with the valentine one. I definately prefer the escort for looks and display however its performance was sub par. I also use a uniden beartracker that alerts you of police within 3 miles or so even without radar guns plus has a built in scanner.(yes I have a HAM license) I may give the new escort a whirl with their 30 day test drive policy but I must admit my valentine one has saved my license a few times.
That is interesting about the lack of alarms for the instant on Ka.
How do you know, other than the word of the officer, that you were actually clocked (by Ka) though, since you say it never went off? I assume you didn't have another detector that did alert you, since you said you got tickets both times.
<<Yeah the word of the officer was all. He was bragging to me about my useless radar detector and how his gun got around it through instant on. I dont trust speedlabs they rated the bel 980 number 1 with the escort and v1 behind it year before when the 8500 was new. The bel 980 sucked.
Warning: If you are in an area where POP is being used, or going to be used, the Valentine One will not detect it at all; even some of the cheaper ("under $200" category in radartest.com tests) new detectors detect it.
Radartest did give the new X50 the vote for instant on over the Bel and V1
for what it is worth.
http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=9090
Speedzones concurs (see chart at [url]speedzones.com[/url]).
From 2 1/2 miles, the X50 detected Ka constant (not X and K) and detected X and Ka instant (not K).
The Bel and V1 detected nothing (neither X nor K nor Ka) from 2 1/2 miles.
From 2 miles, they all detected all 3 bands, both instant and constant.
IF the tests can be trusted, the X50 is said to have the edge...
The one thing with my previous 8500 (non X50) was that there was one specific time that I felt it alerted me kind of late, but maybe the gun wasn't turned on till I got closer.
The only thing I never considered is whether this 50% extra range in the X50 over the regular 8500 can actually be a problem at times:
Now that it has longer range, there will definitely be more times when the detector sends alerts on radar guns that could be on a nearby side street
or other nearby location e.g. where I have no chance of being clocked, whereas with the shorter range (regular) 8500 these non-threats were out of the detector's range.
While these aren't false alerts, they could be annoying
wicked1 wrote:VEFF wrote:wicked1 wrote:time for my 2 cents on radar detectors as I live by them as many of you who have read on here a while know. I bought a Bel 980,Escort 8500 and a valentine one to try them all out to see which one worked best. The Bel 980 I didnt like due the falses. The escort 8500 was great for falses however I also got 2 instant on Ka band tickets that the escort never even alarmed on. The valentine one which I still have did false more often but it points to where its coming from so you can decide if its a threat. Plus the same cop that got me with the escort twice never got me with the valentine one. I definately prefer the escort for looks and display however its performance was sub par. I also use a uniden beartracker that alerts you of police within 3 miles or so even without radar guns plus has a built in scanner.(yes I have a HAM license) I may give the new escort a whirl with their 30 day test drive policy but I must admit my valentine one has saved my license a few times.
That is interesting about the lack of alarms for the instant on Ka.
How do you know, other than the word of the officer, that you were actually clocked (by Ka) though, since you say it never went off? I assume you didn't have another detector that did alert you, since you said you got tickets both times.
<<Yeah the word of the officer was all. He was bragging to me about my useless radar detector and how his gun got around it through instant on. I dont trust speedlabs they rated the bel 980 number 1 with the escort and v1 behind it year before when the 8500 was new. The bel 980 sucked.
Warning: If you are in an area where POP is being used, or going to be used, the Valentine One will not detect it at all; even some of the cheaper ("under $200" category in radartest.com tests) new detectors detect it.
Radartest did give the new X50 the vote for instant on over the Bel and V1
for what it is worth.
http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=9090
Speedzones concurs (see chart at [url]speedzones.com[/url]).
From 2 1/2 miles, the X50 detected Ka constant (not X and K) and detected X and Ka instant (not K).
The Bel and V1 detected nothing (neither X nor K nor Ka) from 2 1/2 miles.
From 2 miles, they all detected all 3 bands, both instant and constant.
IF the tests can be trusted, the X50 is said to have the edge...
The one thing with my previous 8500 (non X50) was that there was one specific time that I felt it alerted me kind of late, but maybe the gun wasn't turned on till I got closer.
The only thing I never considered is whether this 50% extra range in the X50 over the regular 8500 can actually be a problem at times:
Now that it has longer range, there will definitely be more times when the detector sends alerts on radar guns that could be on a nearby side street
or other nearby location e.g. where I have no chance of being clocked, whereas with the shorter range (regular) 8500 these non-threats were out of the detector's range.
While these aren't false alerts, they could be annoying
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