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Postby Vanderlow on Sat May 01, 2004 1:58 pm

Yeah I was wondering if you bitset the DL media to DVD-ROM it might be more playable. I thought Kprobes didn't do DL media accurately yet? The one speed test over at CDRinfo looked good. He identified one drive as a BenQ.
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Postby code65536 on Sat May 01, 2004 3:12 pm

Vanderlow wrote:Yeah I was wondering if you bitset the DL media to DVD-ROM it might be more playable. I thought Kprobes didn't do DL media accurately yet? The one speed test over at CDRinfo looked good. He identified one drive as a BenQ.


I've gotten it to scan pressed DL media... the early KP2 betas had problems, but I think it's resolved now.
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Postby Vanderlow on Sat May 01, 2004 8:42 pm

So should Kprobe scannig pressed DL media be the same as +r?
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Postby code65536 on Sat May 01, 2004 9:03 pm

Vanderlow wrote:So should Kprobe scannig pressed DL media be the same as +r?


It's a good question. My post was more along the lines of "well, it actually scans now, which is a huge improvement over it just sitting there doing nothing in the betas" ;) In any case, the scans do seem to make sense.

Note that KProbe doesn't really do anything. It just asks the onboard chip for an error count and gives that to the user. It's just the messenger. So any accuracy issues should be pegged on whether or not the chipset is able to detect errors properly. As the chipset needs to be able to detect correctable PI and correctable PO errors so that it could correct them, I would guess that the chipset's readings should be fairly reliable, or otherwise, the drive will be unable to read the disc very well.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sat May 01, 2004 11:00 pm

Well, reliable to that specific drive perhaps.... also, what exactly do the error levels mean? LiteON drives are much more error tolerant then some other DVD players.
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Postby code65536 on Sun May 02, 2004 2:20 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:I'm expecting some DVD+R9s in a couple weeks too.


I take it that these are review samples? Any idea when consumers can buy them? I'm itching to buy one. ;)
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun May 02, 2004 2:30 am

code65536 wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:I'm expecting some DVD+R9s in a couple weeks too.


I take it that these are review samples? Any idea when consumers can buy them? I'm itching to buy one. ;)


June should be the month they start becoming available to retail locations. I have no idea which retail locations will put them up for sale, or the price. This is from my friends at Maxell Canada :wink:
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Postby code65536 on Sun May 02, 2004 4:55 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:
code65536 wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:I'm expecting some DVD+R9s in a couple weeks too.


I take it that these are review samples? Any idea when consumers can buy them? I'm itching to buy one. ;)


June should be the month they start becoming available to retail locations. I have no idea which retail locations will put them up for sale, or the price. This is from my friends at Maxell Canada :wink:


Another month? :cry:
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun May 02, 2004 11:40 am

Hey, another month is good... there still aren't any actual dual layer drives on the market you know :roll:
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Postby code65536 on Sun May 02, 2004 12:09 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:Hey, another month is good... there still aren't any actual dual layer drives on the market you know :roll:


I know, I know. And the first generation of DL will be bad and should be avoided. And the media will be expensive and probably not worth it. But... it's fun to have something new and shiny in one's hands. ;) Besides, with all the 832S overclock from 812S rumors being spread by OC-Freak... you'd almost say that it's already on the market. ;)
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun May 02, 2004 1:39 pm

Hrm, I'm looking forward to all the "my 812S@832S failed on me" rumours :roll:

As for me, I'm going out an *BUYING* a *REAL* LiteON 832s drive when they hit the market. I can't afford to be messing around with stuff like that when I've got to get testing on the media done. Why throw extra variables into an equation that is already far too complicated?
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Postby dodecahedron on Sun May 02, 2004 1:43 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:Hrm, I'm looking forward to all the "my 812S@832S failed on me" rumours :roll:

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Postby aviationwiz on Sun May 02, 2004 2:32 pm

dodecahedron wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:Hrm, I'm looking forward to all the "my 812S@832S failed on me" rumours :roll:

believe you me, they won't be rumors. :o


Yeah...

coming back to what rex said about getting one, does ANYONE have an idea on how much the DRU-700A/SOHC-832S is going to cost? I'd be interested in it as a drive for just DL.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun May 02, 2004 2:46 pm

According to my retail contacts, it will be consistant with "the next model up" pricing that you currently see. So I would expect about $165-$215 $CDN or somewhere like that... maybe cheaper?
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Postby aviationwiz on Sun May 02, 2004 3:41 pm

Not bad, of course, I wouldn't mind like $150, heh. I'm sure after a few weeks newegg will have the SOHC-832S OEM for like $150-$160.
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