Off topic
oslik3 wrote:RJW wrote:While your not delivering the best reviews out there.........
I think this one last post as a whole was hilarious !

I think this one is a bit lost in translation. What i ment THE best.
And with the best I mean the best singles source.
So there's only one.
At this time I would say C't is better. I say
at this time !!It just could be that Ian and the staff could turn it in the next review.
Also this will be my final comment about this one since I think running this discussion longer. Isn't for the better.
So let's get this post back to topic.
However if people still want to argue about me about stuff or my opinion use p.m and don't spoll this topic. I know I spoiled it partially so just let me try to end it here.
On topic.
Ian wrote:No, I don't think it does. Even with book type enabled, it read back DVD+R DL discs it had burned at only 8x.. when it read other double layer DVD's at 12x. In theory, if the DVD-ROM flag was set, it should read them at 12x, right?
It might be that it still detects some parts of the MID which makes it choose for the lower speed. I will forward this one to some people who should know this.
claybuster wrote:Ian I think you're being paid off. Cause this drive sucks ass. it deserves maybe a 5 out of 10. It does burn the media at rated speed fine I guess but if I try to over speed anything forget it, It wouldn't even do the 16x verbatim that it came with at 16x WTF is up with that?
What really pissed me off was my 712sa beat the 716sa at 12x in both speed a write quality.
If you would check some other sources then you would see that 1.04 firmware did some massive improvements like Ian said and that it with 1.02 firmware might have had some speed issues but that the performance allready wasn't that bad compared to the competition.
Still a lot of people bashed it because of the speeds and the premium price they paid for it. Would you look it that a writer that is twice as expensive
as the competition didn't seem to justify it's price.
About the 9.
Also a review isn't just numbers in the end there is also something like a conclusion and I think that one was excellent.
I have seen people haveing problems with scores from other media befor however most times people just look at the score.
How can people justify a score if they didn't read the article or at least the conclusion, so they know what the person was thinking when he wrote it and what he was looking at. Based on cdrlabs score system and knoweing how Ian rates drives you should say that his 9 is a fair score. And you also know that cdrlabs reviews are allways fair !
About verbatim. Verbatim quality of 16x media has quite some fluctuations this incombination with plextor being very picky (the drive will lower the speed as soon as it thinks things are going wrong.) can justify the non 16x burn. Would you prefered a 16x coaster like some of the competition would give you. Yeah plextor technology still might make a not so good disc out of it but at least the drive seriosly tried and most times it succeeds actually.