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Lite-On 812s or 851s

Postby jtan on Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:24 am

hi there,

i just checked the price list of the local computer shop and both are priced the same, i'm planning to get a lite-on, any idea which is better among the two?

thanks!
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Postby digitaldoc on Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:01 am

The 812 is the newer drive. In the end, they both can be flashed to an 832s drive for DL capability. Here's the family:
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In the end, either drive is fine, but if they were the same price, I would get the 812s.
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Postby jtan on Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:02 pm

how are they compared to 2510 of nec? will they be very big difference? i'm considering adding extra cost for 2510 of nec and wonder if it's worth it
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:22 pm

yes, the 2510a is worth the extra cost :wink:
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Postby Scour on Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:49 am

jtan wrote:how are they compared to 2510 of nec? will they be very big difference? i'm considering adding extra cost for 2510 of nec and wonder if it's worth it


Yes, the NEc is worth it. Or get a LG GSA 4082/4120 or Pioneer DVR 107, top-writers, better than the Liteon´s.
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Postby motocoke on Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:33 pm

I have both the 832S and 1213S, and they are crap compared to the TDK 440 (NEC 1300) that I own. These 2 Lite-Ons couldn't replace the NEC based drive. Please go for the NEC, I honestly wish I had. :(
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Postby jtan on Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:07 pm

how crap? bad burns?
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Postby Silentbob343 on Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:47 pm

I am at the same place. I need a DVD Burner but don't feel like spending a lot for all the new features that I don't need right now.

I have if narrowed down to:
Nec 2500
Lite on 812S
Nu Tech

All the same price. I thought that optorite and NEC were the same drive? IIRC Optorite drives got torn up on their write quality/bad burns.

Eventually I would like to get a drive that can 16+- and +4DL maybe even -DL, but I can't wait. I have tons of stuff that needs to be backed up now that I have been putting off for to long.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:03 pm

NEC 2500a, no question about it.
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Postby hydrogen on Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:17 pm

I wouldn't buy a Lite On drive if I were you.

I have an Lite On 851s and I don't like it very much. I only got it to do kprobe results.

I like my Pioneer A07. The oem version of that is the Pioneer 107d.

I didn't see the Pioneer 107d in your list, so from your list, I would go with the Nec 2500a.
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Postby Silentbob343 on Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:35 pm

Anybody have opinions on the Nu Tech drive? Ian has a review for the older + drive, but not the newer +- drive.

Also can the 2500 be flashed to the 2510? The only real difference I can see is DL capability, which is too pricey for me. Any other differences between the two.

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If you know of a place that sells the 107d for between $50-$60 I'd buy it quickly. I usually see it for $80-$90. I also remember reading you couldn't upgrade the firmware forPioneer OEM drives.
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Postby hydrogen on Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:01 pm

I haven't see it cheaper than $83.

If you want a drive in the $50 and $60 range then go for the Nec.

If you buy a Pioneer oem drive from a place like Newegg, I think you can update the firmware on it.

It think people are saying you can't update the firmware on a pioneer drive that comes with a prebuilt computer. They are called oem drives also.

Guys, If I'm wrong, please let me know.

I'm sure dolphin or somone else could confirm what I said.

I think the Nutech drive is a good +r burner, but not a good -r burner. I might be wrong, but that's what I have heard.

Do you care about -r?

I think you can update the 2500a drive to a 2510a drive. I'm not sure how though. You would have to ask somone else about that.

Also, the Nec drive has Herries firmwares so that is a plus for the Nec drive.
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