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New firmware for LTR-52327S: QS0C

Postby CDRecorder on Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:16 pm

You can get it at Dhc014's web site. :D
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Postby CDRecorder on Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:22 pm

I just found that the SMART-BURN limit for my 48x CMC discs is back at 52x (it was 40x on QS0A). I'll post some tests later.
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CD-RW compatability?

Postby XIII on Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:41 pm

How's the CD-RW compatability?

I am a bit afraid to test it myself because I might have trouble downgrading to QS09(?)
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Postby rdgrimes on Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:15 pm

RW quality is equal to or better than QS09, you can see scans on some common media HERE QS0C seems to combine all the best qualities from QS09 and QS0A.
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Postby dodecahedron on Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:55 pm

rdgrimes wrote:RW quality is equal to or better than QS09, you can see scans on some common media HERE QS0C seems to combine all the best qualities from QS09 and QS0A.

great news! :P
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Postby Bhairav on Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:36 am

CDRecorder, you burned that TY @ 52X?? Wow. Just wow!Nice results at that speed!
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:39 am

I installed QS0C, and it seems quite good! I've posted some results at CDFreaks. You can find my results and other people's results in the CD Freaks media forum.

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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:49 am

bhairavp wrote:CDRecorder, you burned that TY @ 52X?? Wow. Just wow!Nice results at that speed!


Yes, I was really amazed at how well that worked. Since the Smart-Burn limit was 52x, I thought I'd try it and see what would happen.
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Postby CowboySlim on Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:02 am

I see that there are two versions a "win" and a "bin". Am I correct in assuming that I can install the "win" version by unzipping and running the executable from within Windows where the partitions are NTFS formatted? As such, I won't have to use mktflash?

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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:15 am

You're right. The "Win" version can run under Windows. I used it to update three 52327S drives on my Windows XP computer (one was there temporarily for testing), and it worked fine! :D MTKFlash or other flash tools aren't needed to install the "Win" version.
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Postby Bhairav on Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:13 pm

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bhairavp wrote:CDRecorder, you burned that TY @ 52X?? Wow. Just wow!Nice results at that speed!


Yes, I was really amazed at how well that worked. Since the Smart-Burn limit was 52x, I thought I'd try it and see what would happen.


Weird. My HP 24X TYs are Smart-Burn limited to 40X.
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Postby rdgrimes on Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:20 pm

Yes, I was curious to know if the 7S actually completed the burn at 52x, or if it downshifted. The 7S is very sneaky about downshifting, no yellow light or pause.
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:21 pm

What is the ATIP information on your 24x HP TY discs? Here is the ATIP information for my 24x Fuji TY discs (from SmartBurn 3.1.5):

Drive Type = CD-RW
Disc Type = CDR
Material = Cyanine
Lead In = 97:24:01
Lead Out = 79:59:72
Nominal Capacity = 702.83MB
Manufacturer Maybe = Taiyoyuden,DX Dye
Smart-Burn Speed Limit = 52X(Write)

Edit: Here's the ATIP information from a 48x TY Fuji disc:
Drive Type = CD-RW
Disc Type = CDR
Material = Cyanine
Lead In = 97:24:01
Lead Out = 79:59:72
Nominal Capacity = 702.83MB
Manufacturer Maybe = Taiyoyuden,DX Dye
Smart-Burn Speed Limit = 52X(Write)

They're exactly the same! Interesting...
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:25 pm

Here's an ATIP for some 40x Memorex TY discs:
Drive Type = CD-RW
Disc Type = CDR
Material = Cyanine
Lead In = 97:24:01
Lead Out = 79:59:73
Nominal Capacity = 702.83MB
Manufacturer Maybe = Taiyoyuden,Tuned-X
Smart-Burn Speed Limit = 40X(Write)

Interestingly, this one's limited to 40x.
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:29 pm

rdgrimes wrote:Yes, I was curious to know if the 7S actually completed the burn at 52x, or if it downshifted. The 7S is very sneaky about downshifting, no yellow light or pause.


The yellow light came on one or two seconds before it finished recording.

As I wrote the disc with the "Create Data CD" function of CDSpeed, I saved a picture of the graph of the disc being written. It really did write the disc at 52x, and it took 2:34 to complete.

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Postby rdgrimes on Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:06 pm

Lead Out = 79:59:72

This is not the older 24x TY, it's the 48x TY. which explains the excellent scan at 52x.
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:19 pm

I got those discs at BestBuy a little under a year ago. The shrinkwrap said 24x on it, and a sticker with 40x was stuck on top of the shrinkwrap. I'm surprised that the media in there was actually the 48x media.
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Postby rdgrimes on Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:23 pm

Fuji was using old packaging on the new media and adding the 40x sticker.
There was something of a stink about it at the time, people thought they were getting ripped off.
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:24 pm

Thanks for the explanation. Now it makes sense!
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Re: New firmware for LTR-52327S: QS0C

Postby vsekh on Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:24 pm

CDRecorder wrote:You can get it at Dhc014's web site. :D


Thanks for the link. I'm going to install it when I get home. Hopefully my Fuji TY 48x and Verbatim 52x will complete at 52x speeds. :)
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Postby Bhairav on Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:35 pm

Here's mine:

ATIP: 97m 24s 01f
Disc Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Company Ltd.
Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 73f / LBA: 359848)

rdgrimes' explanation makes sense though.
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Postby Bhairav on Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:58 pm

Here it is using SmartBurn

Drive Type = CD-RW
Disc Type = CDR
Material = Cyanine
Lead In = 97:24:01
Lead Out = 79:59:73
Nominal Capacity = 702.83MB
Manufacturer Maybe = Taiyoyuden,Tuned-X
Smart-Burn Speed Limit = 40X(Write)

Lead-Out is different.
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Postby rdgrimes on Sat Oct 25, 2003 12:27 am

Here's the deal on TY
Lead-out (capacity):
79:59:74 = 16x CDR (later re-rated to 24x)
79:59:73 = 24x CDR (later re-rated to 32x)
79:59:72 = 40x CDR (later re-rated to 48x)
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Postby CDRecorder on Sat Oct 25, 2003 1:38 am

I didn't know that TY actually re-rated their discs; I'm glad to find that my discs were really 40x discs in disguise, though! :D
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Postby Bhairav on Sat Oct 25, 2003 3:25 am

Thanks rdgrimes.
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