Optodisc 8x DVD-Rs

[dolphinius_rex]

So Dolphinious:

In the enviable position that you are in now I am sure the thought has crossed your mind about helping out your good buddies at "CDRLabs".

Is there going to be a "100 new optodiscs for $50 CDN" deal offered exclusively to your attentive fans for evaluation purposes ???????????????????

BMR

you know, it's not very nice to ask about these sorts of things in public... especially since some people on these forums might also be distributors of Optodisc

[jase]

I have not heard one single complaint on the Optodisc 4x DVD-Rs.

I never had any complaints about 2x DVD-R Optodiscs either. And I've tried some 4x +R and they were great as well.

But there is a large Ritek fan club out there, and it doesn't seem to matter how much bad Ritek appears, this view never changes. I remember a few months ago being flamed out of town on one forum for the mere suggestion that Optodisc might be a realistic alternative to Ritek. Oh no, came the reply, they're worse than Princo.....

<sigh> there's no getting through to these "experts"

BTW If you could get me marked down as an official Optodisc tester......

[thegdog]

Oh no, came the reply, they're worse than Princo....

The only way you could be worse than Princo is regardless of what movie you tried to burn to the disc, it always played Gigli.

[jase]

The only way you could be worse than Princo is regardless of what movie you tried to burn to the disc, it always played Gigli.

The day I gave up on Princo was the day I bought a 25-spindle of DVD-Rs only to find that 5 of them (count'em) lacked even the pre-lead that all DVD-R discs have (the ring near the centre of the disc). OK I thought, maybe they're DVD+R put in by mistake. No, they were recognised as DVD-Rs but made my writer make some quite disturbing noises when I tried to record on them.

Never again

[pchilson]

The only way you could be worse than Princo is regardless of what movie you tried to burn to the disc, it always played Gigli.

ROFLMAO

[pchilson]

Sorry, I think I asked the wrong question there...

What can *I* do or suggest to Optodisc that would put people here at ease, and restore a little of your faith in the company?

I called Optodisc again, and they are going to try to hub printing idea out locally in North America, and make the suggestion to their head office in Taiwan. The hub printing may become a standard for Optodisc's Acro Circle media.

The hub printing would be a start, at least the consumer that gives a rats a*s would be assured of the maker (if it isn't also faked).
Problem that would still exist is the "sharks" like Meritline would falsley advertise based on the TY MID code.
You wouldn't know till you received the media and only if you were educated enough to know and of course Meritline would expect you to pay the shipping...
Ahhh... best solution, NEVER BUY FROM MERITLINE...

[dolphinius_rex]

Ahhh... best solution, NEVER BUY FROM MERITLINE...

Hrm... I thought that was kind of a given....

Anyways, Meritline already has access to fake Taiyo Yuden discs... how do I know that? Well, I cant give all my secrets away But it isn't through Optodisc.

Jase: Sorry, I can only convince them of so much... I already pulled some strings to get a mutual friend some free media so that we could all benefit from their knowledge. If you can't figure out who it is now, you will in time

I picked up 25pcs of the Inkjet printable 4x DVD+Rs today for testing out, and I'll let people know how they perform. I couldn't get the Silver topped ones, since they were out of stock.

Dangit, I really want those 8x DVD-Rs.... and I might have to wait until monday to get them too!

Oh, just so everyone knows, all your complaints have been voiced directly to Optodisc America (I literally read them over the phone) and they will be passed on to Optodisc's head office in Taiwan. I thought everyone would like knowing that their complaints did not fall on deaf ears, and that steps are being taken to remedy the problem as much as is immediatly possible.

Hehe, before you know it, I'll be sending Optodisc invoices for Customer Service Hours logged Actually, this is very similar to the kind of work I did for Ritek before they decided I wasn't worth keeping around anymore But Ritek was never interested in customer support anyways! (ask anyone who actually DEALS with Ritek direct!)

[Ian]

Just wait for their 16x media:

[pchilson]

Just wait for their 16x media:

Isn't Photoshop great?

[dolphinius_rex]

Just wait for their 16x media:

Isn't Photoshop great?

Nah, companies silkscreen media with advanced parameters all the time

[Ian]

That's not Photoshopped. It's from Computex. But, alas its probably not an actual 16x disc. As dolph said, its probably an 8x disc with 16x silkscreened on it.

[pchilson]

I was browsing around Optodiscs website this AM and there is no mention of any media greater than 2.4x. What's up with that?

[thegdog]

Just wait for their 16x media:

I'm eager to find out the pricing of their dual layer media.

[dolphinius_rex]

I was browsing around Optodiscs website this AM and there is no mention of any media greater than 2.4x. What's up with that?

No idea... they're slow I guess

Still, it's better then advertising things they don't support *ahem* RITEK*ahem*

I don't think they are making dual layer media right now... although, since Prodisc is, they might be. Optodisc and Prodisc are both fighting very hard to be the one who replaces Ritek

[Ian]

Check Optodisc USA's website. They at least have info on their 4x media:

http://www.optodiscusa.com/

Optodisc DVD+R DL media... 4x too!

[jsl]

Optodisc DVD+R DL media... 4x too!

While they were at it they might as well have printed 32x quad-layer on some discs they showed too

It looks like Infomedia/Infodisc has actually released some real DVD+R DL discs now though: http://forum.firmware-flash.com/viewtop ... 940#115940 But as they showed up in Taiwan they probably some rejects...

[thegdog]

I don't think they are making dual layer media right now... although, since Prodisc is, they might be. Optodisc and Prodisc are both fighting very hard to be the one who replaces Ritek

Well, introducing quality DL media would be a good start. When I was in Best Buy yesterday (picking up my DL media actually) I heard a salesperson explaining to a customer why he wanted the DRU-700A drive, commenting on the dual layer writing. Of course, he then had to explain that the box had no dual layer media inside, and they didn't actually sell any either.

Well, technically they did. They had those Verbatim Dual Layer Solution kits. "had" being the operative word since I bought what they had on the shelf.

Hopefully Optodisc and Prodisc can get supported by dual layer drive manufacturers quickly. Considering the dearth of the DL media available, you'd think that drive manufacturers would be very eager to add support for new DL media as quickly as they could. Might even be able to leverage getting other media support added as a side benefit...

[dolphinius_rex]

wow... learning lot's on this. My Optodisc contact is in a meeting right now, but I'll pick his brain more in a couple hours

[Ian]

Well, introducing quality DL media would be a good start. When I was in Best Buy yesterday (picking up my DL media actually)

What? Media is actually out? How much?

[thegdog]

What? Media is actually out? How much?

They had those Verbatim Double Layer Solution kits.

8 8x DVD+R media, 1 4x DVD+RW media, 1 2.4x DVD+R DL media.

http://www.verbatim.com/products/product_detail.cfm?product_id=38919552-8333-472C-9BA219DBFC719C22&pc_parent=1DC9DF5C-C0D4-4AEC-BE4352D34D71B4EB&type=info

They were $29.99 for the kit.

[Ian]

That's not actually a bad price for all those discs.

[thegdog]

That's not actually a bad price for all those discs.

Well, considering that they also have a 10 pack of 8x DVD+R media for $19.99, it puts the price of the dual layer media around $12. Which is on the pricier side.

I just wanted to see how my NEC ND2500A drive with the ND2510A firmware would handle writing to the media.

Although, it looks like the only drives that work with KProbe and can read DVD+R DL media are the Lite-On SOHW-832 (and SOHW-812 with hacked 832 firmware) and the Sony DRU-700A, so that makes testing the media a little harder.

[pchilson]

What? Media is actually out? How much?

They had those Verbatim Double Layer Solution kits.

8 8x DVD+R media, 1 4x DVD+RW media, 1 2.4x DVD+R DL media.

They were $29.99 for the kit.

Yeah, I just saw them in BestBuy as well.
Problem is if you want more than one DL disc you're screwed.
If they can put them out like this then why not in a 10 pak?
As it is if I want to try a DL disc I have to buy 9 other discs that I don't really want...
Can you say shakedown...

[Ian]

Are the discs in the pack DataLifePlus? The 10 packs they sell are the cheaper, non-DLP ones.

[pchilson]

Are the discs in the pack DataLifePlus? The 10 packs they sell are the cheaper, non-DLP ones.

Sorry, didn't pay attention...