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Postby airtommy on Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:05 pm

This is the first free CD-RW deal I have ever seen:

50-pack Value Disc 4X CD-RW

$29.99 - $9.99 IR- $10 MIR - $10 MIR = FREE

Deal begins Sunday, October 26. It's on the last page of their weekly ad.

http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prePrintSelect.jsp?bvc=yes
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Postby inet on Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:46 am

Can somebody share some experience about that stuff? Is 4X too slow?Thanks.
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Postby dodecahedron on Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:47 am

inet wrote:Can somebody share some experience about that stuff? Is 4X too slow?Thanks.

yeah, it is slow!

anyone knows who makes these CDRWs ?
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Postby TheWizard on Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:58 am

Could very well be CMC. I know Value Disc CD-R's are CMC.
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Postby Jim on Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:46 pm

I went and bought a pack of these to take advantages of the rebates last Sunday. My Lite On CDRW identifies the discs as Verbatim with Smartburn 3.1.5. Smartburn limit of 4X.

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Postby inet on Sat Nov 01, 2003 12:49 am

do you mean it is made by verbatim?
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Postby Jim on Sat Nov 01, 2003 11:42 am

That's what Smartburn identifies the manufacturer as. The packaging says Value Disc and the Rebate form identifies them as Khypermedia.

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Postby TheWizard on Sat Nov 01, 2003 5:31 pm

I don't trust SmartBurn. Doesn't it say, "Manufacturer (MAYBE)?"
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Postby dodecahedron on Sat Nov 01, 2003 6:25 pm

TheWizard wrote:I don't trust SmartBurn. Doesn't it say, "Manufacturer (MAYBE)?"

you gotta be kinning! :o

all these programs use the ATIP code. more correctly: ATIP Start Time of Lead-In. this is used to signify the manufacturer, and is unreliable as we all know.
you might say that SmartBurn is the most trustworthy program, since it at least tells you that this info may not be accurate!
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Postby TheWizard on Sat Nov 01, 2003 7:44 pm

Kinning? No, and not kidding either. :P What bothers me is that SmartBurn shows "CMC, Imation" as the manufacturer for CMC discs even if they are not branded as Imation. Which is why I believe Jim may be confused. If the output reads "Mitsubishi, Verbatim" then I might have a bone to pick with that as well. The phrase "Disc manufacturer maybe" does not strike confidence in me. :)
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Postby aviationwiz on Sat Nov 01, 2003 7:57 pm

SmartBurn does what every other program does. It reads the ATIP info. It is simply not Smart Burn's fault. While I use Nero CD Speed for checking who makes CD-R's when I first buy them, Smart Burn works fine. I only check whenever I buy new disks every month or two.
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Postby Jim on Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:10 pm

I never used any programs to check CDR manufacturers or write quality until I discovered this site. I ran one of those discs through Nero CD Speed and it identifies it as Mitsubishi (manufacturer).

If anyone wants me to test them in another fashion just let me know.

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Postby TheWizard on Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:33 pm

I believe Mitsubishi as the more likely manufacturer. I suspect SmartBurn lists the manufacturer as "Mitsubishi, Verbatim" which is truthful, but also a bit misleading. I have no major problem against SmartBurn, just in this instance it can confuse the novice user into thinking he/she has a disc manufactured by Verbatim, when in fact, Verbatim does not manufacture discs.
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Postby dodecahedron on Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:58 am

the best solution is to use more than 1 such program. they're all know to be wrong at times.

i have (not that i use all of these):
Nero CD Speed
Nero - Burning Rom
Plextor PlexTools Professional
Plextor CDVD Info
KProbe
SmartBurn
CDR Identifier (no longer supported)
burnatonce

i agree with Wizard that SmartBurn, by adding the brand name to the manufacturer, can be misleading (this can only increase the chances of an incorrect output...any who needs the brand anyway? you see it because you have the disc in your hand!)
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Postby TheWizard on Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:46 pm

I feel bad for people with unbranded, silver top CD-R's that show up as "CMC, Imation" in SmartBurn. They are probably ecstatic because they bought Imation discs, when in fact, they aren't.
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