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Postby hydrogen on Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:52 am

Is the Pioneer A09Xl worth getting right now? Just curious. Are their problems with the drive?
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Postby overclockxp on Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:59 am

There are problems with every drive. Just depends on your setup more than anything else.

Check out cdfreaks' Pioneer forum for people's experiences. You'll definitely want an 80 wire/40 pin cable.
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Postby hydrogen on Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:12 am

Thank you overclockxp.

Does no one own this drive or something? I thought people would have commented on the drive in this thread.

Not many people here are talking about the drive. Cdfreaks is the only place that I have found that talks about the drive.

Is anyone thinking about buying one?
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Postby Gen-An on Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:19 am

The A09 just doesn't seem to be very popular...
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Postby Mystery Man on Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:46 am

Ive got the A08 and the A09 is not worth the upgrade for me. The A08 is heaps good enough and does all i want it to do flawlessly
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Postby dodecahedron on Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:25 am

yeah, probably because lots of people got the 108 and the 109 isn't worth upgrading to from the 108.
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Postby hydrogen on Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:42 am

Thank you guys for the replies.

I guess you guys are right. I just thought it would be popular since new Pioneer drives are usually popular.
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Postby Guzo on Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:21 am

Is there any difference between a09 and 109
Because i saw different firmware in pioneer pages
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Postby Ian on Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:47 am

Guzo wrote:Is there any difference between a09 and 109
Because i saw different firmware in pioneer pages


Yes, here in the US, the 109 is the OEM version. It has the plain looking bezel and lacks the A09's sound reducing technologies. It rips DVD movies at only 5x as well.

Without faster rewritable and DVD-R DL media available, there really isn't that much of a reason to upgrade from the A08 to the A09. Especially since the A09 uses Z-CLV when writing at 16x. Many people (myself included) were expecting CAV.
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Postby dodecahedron on Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:28 am

OK waiting for the A110 :D
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Postby uknown1234 on Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:32 am

Ian wrote:
Guzo wrote:Is there any difference between a09 and 109
Because i saw different firmware in pioneer pages


Yes, here in the US, the 109 is the OEM version. It has the plain looking bezel and lacks the A09's sound reducing technologies. It rips DVD movies at only 5x as well.

Without faster rewritable and DVD-R DL media available, there really isn't that much of a reason to upgrade from the A08 to the A09. Especially since the A09 uses Z-CLV when writing at 16x. Many people (myself included) were expecting CAV.


I recall someone stating that the a09 or 109 does write pcav/cave but only with certain media.
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Postby Ian on Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:31 am

uknown1234 wrote:
Ian wrote:I recall someone stating that the a09 or 109 does write pcav/cave but only with certain media.


Maybe. I have yet to see any screenshots of the drive doing it yet.
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Postby Gen-An on Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:49 am

Ian wrote:
uknown1234 wrote:
Ian wrote:I recall someone stating that the a09 or 109 does write pcav/cave but only with certain media.


Maybe. I have yet to see any screenshots of the drive doing it yet.


http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/a09j/a09j_dvdben1.htm
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/a09j/a09j_dvdben2.htm
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Postby Ian on Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:26 pm

Of course.. 16x media from TY and TDK.. stuff we probably won't see in the US for some time. :cry:
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:55 pm

Maybe when the next firmware is released?
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Postby Gen-An on Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:14 pm

Ian wrote:Of course.. 16x media from TY and TDK.. stuff we probably won't see in the US for some time. :cry:


It seems the 16x Verbatim media isn't supported at 16x yet on this drive, which is unfortunate as MCC03RG20 and MCC004 are probably the most widely available 16x media in the US.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:25 pm

Gen-An wrote:
Ian wrote:Of course.. 16x media from TY and TDK.. stuff we probably won't see in the US for some time. :cry:


It seems the 16x Verbatim media isn't supported at 16x yet on this drive, which is unfortunate as MCC03RG20 and MCC004 are probably the most widely available 16x media in the US.


Umm... not for me :wink:

Ritek 16x DVD+Rs and Acro Circle 16x DVD-Rs are *MUCH* easier for me to get from the U.S. ..... not to mention much cheaper :wink:

I think I actually trust Ritek's 16x DVD+R more then Verbatim's 16x DVD+Rs too... but Acro Circle's are only properly supported on the NEC 3500a, NEC 3520, and the BenQ DW1620 :cry: But Pioneer has promised support for them soon supposedly [-o<
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Postby Guzo on Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:44 pm

But Pioneer wrote that 109 writes CAV to 16×
check pioneer website :x
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Postby RJW on Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:57 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:I think I actually trust Ritek's 16x DVD+R more then Verbatim's 16x DVD+Rs too... but Acro Circle's are only properly supported on the NEC 3500a, NEC 3520, and the BenQ DW1620


Tried BTC ? They claime to have added support on the 16x dvd-burner. Now I know it's BTC that's why I say CLAIME !!
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Postby hydrogen on Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:12 am

The drive could get better with newer firmware. Didn't it take a few new firmwares to get the 107d and 108d to where they are at now? If so, then the future may be good for the 109d.

I have confidence in Pioneer, so I'm sure they will work out all the problems with new firmwares. They have good firmware support.

Didn't people not like the 108d at first, but did later on with the new firmwares?
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