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Pioneer DVR-A12J - 18x DVD±R, 10x DVD±R DL and Labelflash

Postby Ian on Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:00 pm

Another drive we probably won't see in the US. :cry:

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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:48 pm

this is probably Pioneer's last DVD burner too I would guess. Hopefully Pioneer will work harder on their BluRay drives now... you know, like by adding BD-RDL support or something :P
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Postby Scour on Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:21 pm

Since long time in Germany only to get the bulk-versions of Pioneer-drives :(

But I hope i will get an 112 or maybe a Asus-rebadge because I´m not sure whether i should buy a Liteon, a friend have the 18A1H and he is not so happy with it
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:46 pm

I really wonder why Pioneer keeps supporting LabelFlash? Is it actually selling in Europe?

Lightscribe sales are going up all the time here in Canada, and I assume the USA as well. But I can't imagine the market is big enough to handle 2 competing formats.
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Postby Scour on Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:12 pm

Actually the A12 (112?) is not avaible in Germany
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Postby Grain on Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:53 am

Apparently there is a sata version coming in 07 also, 'bout time.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:14 pm

yeah, it's taken way too long to get SATA DVD burners out on the market. Sure Plextor has had them for a while, but we need more then one or two options :wink:
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Postby Ian on Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:37 pm

Lite-On SH-16A7S @ Newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827106047

Only $35 for a SATA DVD writer.

As soon as they get the retail version in stock, I'm going to order myself one.
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Postby frank1 on Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:09 am

Do SATA connected DVD burners work PERFECTLY these days with MOST of the chipsets present today in our motherboards ?
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Postby Ian on Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:48 am

frank1 wrote:Do SATA connected DVD burners work PERFECTLY these days with MOST of the chipsets present today in our motherboards ?


They worked fine with the Intel chipsets from a few years ago so I'm guessing they still work today. They also work with the latest Nvidia chipsets. I have a couple SATA Lite-On drives in my new computer.
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Postby Pilgrim on Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:08 pm

So, what is the advantage of a SATA drive vs. IDE drive? The read/write speeds, I'm assuming, won't be effected. And would anyone know if, e.g., this Liteon SATA drive is compatible with a Nvidia Nforce 570 Ultra chipset? And lastly, it would appear that the only difference between the OEM vs. Retail version is that the Retail comes with software. Any idea what the software entails? e.g., Nero 7 Ultra perhaps?
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Postby Ian on Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:29 pm

Pilgrim wrote:So, what is the advantage of a SATA drive vs. IDE drive? The read/write speeds, I'm assuming, won't be effected. And would anyone know if, e.g., this Liteon SATA drive is compatible with a Nvidia Nforce 570 Ultra chipset? And lastly, it would appear that the only difference between the OEM vs. Retail version is that the Retail comes with software. Any idea what the software entails? e.g., Nero 7 Ultra perhaps?


The biggest advantage is the cable size. Also, more and more motherboards are including 1 or even 0 PATA connectors so you're SOL if you want to add more than a couple devices.

That Lite-On works with the Nforce 570 SLI. I have two engineering samples in my computer right now.

The retail comes with software, manual and probably an extra bezel. At this point, I belive Lite-On is shipping Nero 7 with all of their new drives, except for their new Blu-ray writer.
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Postby Pilgrim on Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:01 pm

Ian,

Thanks for all the answers to my questions. I recently built a new system and have one of "those" new MB's that has but one IDE connector and the rest SATA. I will definitely consider this Lite-on drive whenever I can read a review of it, either by someone like yourself or another reliable source and then compare it to my LG GSA-H10N, which is serving me well. If there is a noticeable improvement between the two, then it's a done deal. 8)
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Postby LoneWolf on Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:22 pm

Ian wrote:
frank1 wrote:Do SATA connected DVD burners work PERFECTLY these days with MOST of the chipsets present today in our motherboards ?


They worked fine with the Intel chipsets from a few years ago so I'm guessing they still work today. They also work with the latest Nvidia chipsets. I have a couple SATA Lite-On drives in my new computer.


Have you reviewed this drive, Ian? If not, I'd be interested in seeing one.

If they work well with nForce4 Ultra (AMD version), I'd consider replacing both my IDE drives (in sig) with SATA ones. I'm also concerned with media compatibility/write quality, two things LiteOn didn't do all that well when I was last looking at optical drives.
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Postby Ian on Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:28 pm

LoneWolf wrote:Have you reviewed this drive, Ian? If not, I'd be interested in seeing one.


I will if I can get my hands on a retail unit. Considering how slow Lite-On has been to get us new drives, I'll probably just pick one up at Newegg.
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Postby Ian on Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:32 am

Drool...
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Postby dodecahedron on Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:39 pm

i certainly hope it's as good as the DVR-111 [-o<
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