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Plextor and new drives (18x, yes 18x DVD)

Postby yuki chan on Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:23 am

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/ ... lextor.htm

Just when I thought that DVD writeable was maxed out at 16x, Plextor surprises us with an 18x burner.
Translation of specs (easy enough)
PX-760A/JP about 15000 yen (~150 USD) late November
PX-760SA/JP about 1800 yen (~180USD) December

18X +/- R
10X + R DL
6X DVD-R DL
DVD+RW 8X
DVD-RW 6X
CD-R 48X
CD-RW 24X
The top text says that the drive will be able to write to DVD 16X media at the 18X speed

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(Looks like a Plextor drive and not an OEM re-brand)
Comes with three colors (faceplate change) starting for IDE and for SATA


Now the not so impressive model:

DVD Ram support is the only big thing with this model
DVD±R 16X
DVD±R DL 8X
DVD-RAM 5X
DVD±R DL 8X (will be a firmware update? For –DL I think it said it is only 6 from factory)
DVD+RW 8X
DVD-RW 6X
CD-R 40X
CD-RW 24

PX-750A/JP (IDE) November about 11,000 yen (~110 USD)
PX-750UF/JP (USB 2.0/IEEE 1394) December about 14,000 Yen (~140)

Looks as a re-brand maybe BenQ
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:28 am

Excellent find Yuki!!

Thanks for posting :D
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Postby Wesociety on Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:36 am

Thanks for the translation!
The "World's fastest" DVD burner. :o
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:27 am

Wesociety wrote:Thanks for the translation!
The "World's fastest" DVD burner. :o


Able to burn single layer DVDR a whopping 10 seconds faster then competing drives :lol:

But 10x DVDRDL speeds should be a somewhat decent advantage... I just hope they aren't planning on pushing Verbatim 2.4x DVD+RDL to 10x!! That media can't even handle 8x recording properly and yet so many drives try to push it (*cough*Pioneer & BenQ*cough*)
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Postby yuki chan on Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:46 am

I am surprised plextor is keeping the so called “budget” line of drives active based on other manufacturers hardware
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:42 am

yuki chan wrote:I am surprised plextor is keeping the so called “budget” line of drives active based on other manufacturers hardware


They probably make a LOT more money on them!! :wink:
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Postby frank1 on Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:07 am

Thanks, fantastic news !

On the presentation page of the PX-750A "Super Multi" drive:
http://plextor.jp/product/px750a/index.php

I noticed:

1°) There is not mention for Q-Check (such as PI/PO or TA test) and AutoStrategy for the "Super Multi" PX-750A.
Is this an other indication that it is probably a rebadged BenQ DQ60 ?

2°) There is a photo of a DVD-RAM in an opening cartridge.
Does that mean that the drive supports burning DVD-RAM in a cartridge
or on the opposite that the disc needs to be removed from the cartridge in order to be written ?



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The following photo comes from the collection of YSS:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis ... 2fdvd7.htm
Drive n° 77:
TEAC DV-W516E similar to the BenQ DQ60
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The LED and the emergency ejection hole are in the same position as on the above photo of the PX-750.


Comparison between TEAC DV-W516E and BenQ DQ60
made by YSS, here:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/dq60/DQ60.htm
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Postby Scour on Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:22 am

Hello!

Great, a drive that is some seconds faster than all others :)

The 760 looks like a Plextor, the 750 could be (like Frank1 shows) a Benq-OEM.
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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:56 am

You have to remove the DVD-RAM from the cartridge to use it:
"When using the media of cartridge type, after removing the disk, please use."
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Postby Ian on Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:12 am

The 750 looks just like the BenQ. If I was a betting man, I'd say that it was.

Maybe a Japanese speaker can check this for me.. but it looks like the only discs that will work at 18x are TY?
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Postby Scour on Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:58 am

Ian wrote:The 750 looks just like the BenQ. If I was a betting man, I'd say that it was.

Maybe a Japanese speaker can check this for me.. but it looks like the only discs that will work at 18x are TY?


Maybe Plextor bring us 18x TY-media ;) ?
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Postby Scour on Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:06 am

Hello!

Only a thought...

I wonder why the name of this drive is 760 and not 718. Plextor´s own writers had always the speed within like 708=8x, 712=12x etc.

But the last OEM´s have names like 740
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Postby Ian on Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:13 am

Scour wrote:I wonder why the name of this drive is 760 and not 718. Plextor´s own writers had always the speed within like 708=8x, 712=12x etc.


I was wondering that too. The 760 supports Autostrategy and Q-Check so its gotta be a Plextor design.
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Postby dodecahedron on Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:29 am

plextor is probably changing the naming scheme.
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Postby Gen-An on Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:00 am

Ian wrote:The 750 looks just like the BenQ. If I was a betting man, I'd say that it was.

Maybe a Japanese speaker can check this for me.. but it looks like the only discs that will work at 18x are TY?


You are correct, Taiyo Yuden media is the only media supported at 18x. I'm guessing they mean the 16x TY media.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:31 pm

Gen-An wrote:
Ian wrote:The 750 looks just like the BenQ. If I was a betting man, I'd say that it was.

Maybe a Japanese speaker can check this for me.. but it looks like the only discs that will work at 18x are TY?


You are correct, Taiyo Yuden media is the only media supported at 18x. I'm guessing they mean the 16x TY media.


So will it support YUDEN000T02 at 18x? or YUDEN000T03 at 18x? (or both?!). Since no one can really GET YUDEN000T03 the 18x DVD+R support might become moot :o
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Postby Scour on Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:07 pm

Ian wrote:
I was wondering that too. The 760 supports Autostrategy and Q-Check so its gotta be a Plextor design.


So it uses still Sanyo-chipsets?
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Postby yuki chan on Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:25 pm

Ian, I looked on the article and the web page of plextor Japan

It says othing of TY bias
It just says burn 16X +/- at 18x with certified previous media
so maybe but maybe it will be anything the previous model could burn at 16x

As for Sanyo, the drive probably does use a Sanyo chipset along with possibly the Asahi Kasei ASP used in previous drives (the specs and block diagram show it can be tweaked for higher speeds)
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Postby Ian on Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:31 pm

Yuki, scroll about 3/4 of the way down the page:

http://plextor.jp/product/px760a/index.php

If you translate the Japanese next to the 18x speed, it says "Solar induced electricity (Inc.)". This is the same thing that the goofy translators translate Taiyo Yuden to be.

Of course, that's just the recommended media list. Other media might work at that speed as well.
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Postby dodecahedron on Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:38 pm

Plextor have finally given way - only 2MB buffer :o
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Postby yuki chan on Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:11 pm

You are correct
I didn’t see that I was looking at the 16x section and i thought it meant it will burn at the 18x

and the translator is correct that’s the elements of the kanji for TY's name
Taiyo=Sun
Yuden= Lightning? I think

But any who, yeah I apologize for that error (though if my translation is correct it should do the 16x list at 18x but is not recommended)
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:36 pm

dodecahedron wrote:Plextor have finally given way - only 2MB buffer :o


Where does it say that??
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Postby ItalianJob on Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:53 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:
dodecahedron wrote:Plextor have finally given way - only 2MB buffer :o


Where does it say that??


It seems... So change of naming scheme and buffer size *OR* another BenQ drive coming soon ?
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:18 pm

Possibly a typo too....

But I don't think BenQ is making 18x DVD burners.... not really their thing I don't think.
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Postby Gen-An on Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:59 pm

ItalianJob wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:
dodecahedron wrote:Plextor have finally given way - only 2MB buffer :o


Where does it say that??


It seems... So change of naming scheme and buffer size *OR* another BenQ drive coming soon ?


It can't be a BenQ drive; it supports all of the typical PlexTools features like GigaRec, VariRec, PowerRec, AutoStrategy, etc. Likely there is a new Sanyo chipset this drive will be using.
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