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In House Review - TEAC DV-W58GA 8x DVD±RW

Postby Ian on Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:44 pm

CDRLabs has taken an in depth look at TEAC's new 8x DVD±RW drive, the DV-W58GA. This new drive is capable of 8x DVD±R and 4x DVD±RW writing speeds and has a maximum DVD read speed of 12x. The DV-W58GA also includes features like 40x CD reading and writing speeds, 24x rewriting speeds and support for buffer underrun protection.

In this review we'll take a look at some of the features found on the DV-W58GA and see how it compares to some of the DVD±RW drives from the competition. Can the DV-W58GA deliver the features and performance we've come to expect from TEAC? You'll have to read the review to find out.

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Postby Scour on Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:23 pm

Hello!

Nice review, Ian :)

But I´m not impressed, the KProbe-results are not really good and the other DVD-results are not Top.

In the german magazine c´t the Teac have better writing-quality as the LiteOn-originals, but both writers far away from the good writers from LG and Pioneer.

Only the CD-R-results are better than average.
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Postby Ian on Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:11 pm

Yeah, TEAC really needs to get a firmware update out there for this drive. At least something to put it on par with the Lite-On 812S.
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Postby code65536 on Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:17 pm

Yikes. Still using U4S2? That's a very old 812S firmware. Like US01 or US03 in age. That probably didn't help much in the quality department.

Also, bitsetting doesn't work with U4S2, like all the 812S firmwares prior to US0J. The booktype utility will say that it worked, but if you actually burn a disc with bitsetting, the disc won't be bitset. In order to get bitsetting to work with U4S2, you'll need to patch the firmware.

Oh well. If Teac isn't good about pestering LiteOn for a new firmware, I guess that's their loss, then. ;)
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Postby Scour on Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:12 pm

code65536 wrote:Yikes. Still using U4S2? That's a very old 812S firmware. Like US01 or US03 in age. That probably didn't help much in the quality department.

Also, bitsetting doesn't work with U4S2, like all the 812S firmwares prior to US0J. The booktype utility will say that it worked, but if you actually burn a disc with bitsetting, the disc won't be bitset. In order to get bitsetting to work with U4S2, you'll need to patch the firmware.

Oh well. If Teac isn't good about pestering LiteOn for a new firmware, I guess that's their loss, then. ;)


But in some c´t-reviews the Teac is better with the older FW-version as a LiteOn with newer-FW. Teac doesn´t use FW with 1:1-convert a original Lite-FW, Teac edited it by their own
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Postby dhc014 on Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:17 pm

Scour wrote:Teac edited it by their own

BS. If Teac was capable of improving Liteon's drives by editing the firmware, then Liteon sould certainly improve their drives as well.
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Postby Scour on Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:59 pm

dhc014 wrote:
Scour wrote:Teac edited it by their own

BS. If Teac was capable of improving Liteon's drives by editing the firmware, then Liteon sould certainly improve their drives as well.


What means "BS"?
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Postby Ian on Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:25 pm

BS = Bull Sh*t
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Postby pchilson on Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:50 pm

Ian wrote:BS = Bull Sh*t

C'mon Ian, quit beating around the bush...
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Postby Ian on Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:59 pm

lol.. come on, I have to keep it semi clean. :wink:
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:34 pm

pchilson wrote:
Ian wrote:BS = Bull Sh*t

C'mon Ian, quit beating around the bush...


Bush Sh*t?
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Postby Ian on Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:02 pm

No, in that case BS would stand for Bush Stupid
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:09 am

Ian wrote:No, in that case BS would stand for Bush Stupid


hehe :lol:
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Postby Scour on Fri Jun 25, 2004 9:36 am

dhc014 wrote:
Scour wrote:Teac edited it by their own

BS. If Teac was capable of improving Liteon's drives by editing the firmware, then Liteon sould certainly improve their drives as well.


Then tell me why the Teac´s with older FW offer better writing quality as the LiteOn with newer FW
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Postby code65536 on Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:40 am

Scour wrote:Then tell me why the Teac´s with older FW offer better writing quality as the LiteOn with newer FW


The proper comparison would be Teac's ancient firmware with LiteOn's own ancient firmware (US01/US03).

And there could be other factors. One might be that the LiteOn unit that they got was physically damaged. Unless they compared Teac's old firmware with LiteOn's (spectacular) US0N firmware on the same drive, it is not a fair comparison.
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Postby Ian on Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:05 pm

They also could have been made on different assembly lines, in different factories, under different conditions... all which can affect the overall characteristics of a drive.
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Postby Scour on Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:45 pm

Hello!

Are the quality differences so high? I wonder that every time the Teac has better writing quality than the original-Liteon.

Other side, the Waitec´s (based on Lite) with older FW than the Lite was more worse than the Lite with newer FW

No matter, what´s the reason, the overall quality of LiteOn-products doen´t reach the average-mark
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