dolphinius_rex wrote:Well, Pioneer officialy certified Optodisc's 4x DVD-RWs, so they can't be having THAT many problems with each other...
You are forgetting a few things here.
First you have 2 divisions one is about the verification and one is for the actuall drive. That verification tested it doesn't mean that the drive manufacturers also got (enough) media to fix support.
dolphinius_rex wrote:The DVR-108's support for Optodisc 4x is atrocious! The 107 even with the later firmware that screwed up support is still better. But Pioneer seems to burn Optodisc 8x DVDRs ok, both DVD+R and DVD-R.
I wouldn't blame Pioneer for not supporting Optodisc 4x. The variance in quality make Ritek's variance seems to look nice. OUCH !!!
That the later firmware support screwed up the support is thanks to batch variances. What if I try to update the support and the companny launches just another version from which you don't get samples and from which the parameters are not completely matching the older media for which you just fine tuned the drive.
Also some disc manufacturer just send only very early first pressed samples to drive manufacturers for optimalisation.
Now some drive manufacturers think these are enough and base there strategies just on these and not what on what's really hitting the market.
Luckilly more and more compannies seem to take in account that the drive has to work with the media on the market and not with there vancy early first fresh stamper pressed disc's they get.
On the other hand some drive manufacturers are really slow and selective when it comes to support. Non Japanese and non big taiwanese disc manufacturers are quite screwed when it comes to support unless there's some big important companny standing behind it !!!
(Now I'm not saying that they really should spend a lot of time on SKY Media but with SKY it's really the product that seems to be very poor manufacturerd !. And there are some other examples ! But compannies who make decent products are sometimes very poor supported !)
Optodisc only got full approval for +r from philips on 2.4x DVD+RW and
a provisional approval on 4x DVD+R. Which makes me think: Why nothing for 8x DVD+R and 4x DVD+RW ?
And why was the 4x DVD+R just provisional approved ?