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Postby dodecahedron on Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:58 am

is this Lite-On DVD-ROM drive OK for scanning? i thought DVD-ROM drives weren't !
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:44 pm

dodecahedron wrote:is this Lite-On DVD-ROM drive OK for scanning? i thought DVD-ROM drives weren't !


Ignore the scan, look at the transfer rate test :wink:
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Postby frank1 on Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:24 pm

I put the PI/PIF scan on line just as a indication because the drive is able to produce a graph. I do not know what such as scan is really worth.

In the future I will only post transfer rate curves made with this new Lite-ON SOHD 16P9S drive and the FS09 firmware patched by" Codeguys"
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Postby Scour on Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:51 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:Ignore the scan, look at the transfer rate test :wink:


Less than 4GB is not very interesting for a transfer-rate-test
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Postby dodecahedron on Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:42 pm

Scour wrote:Less than 4GB is not very interesting for a transfer-rate-test

why? is it because the 'end' of the disc is the most problematic part ?
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:02 pm

Scour wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:Ignore the scan, look at the transfer rate test :wink:


Less than 4GB is not very interesting for a transfer-rate-test


Sure it is! Just because the end of the disc is more likely to be problamtic, does not mean that it's not important to test smaller then 4GB discs. Transfer rate tests are STILL more useful in testing media then PI/PIF scans done on DVD-ROM's (maybe if there is like 0.5GB on the disc it'd be stupid though!).
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:03 pm

Back on topic here, it looks like with Optodisc being nearly bought out by that Japanese company, the chances of Optodisc and Prodisc merging have become quite slim. However hopes are high that Japanese companies like Pioneer and Plextor will now begin taking them a little more seriously.
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Postby Scour on Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:24 pm

dodecahedron wrote:why? is it because the 'end' of the disc is the most problematic part ?


Yes. I saw good scans but bad transfer-rates at the end of several media.

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Hope it, too. And I hope that Benq can burn it better tahn the other -R from Prodisc.
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Postby frank1 on Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:39 am

Scour wrote:Less than 4GB is not very interesting for a transfer-rate-test

So I burned a video of 4,36 GB to the same medias
with a Pioneer A07 (firmware 1.21)
and the tranfer rates curves are still good even if they do not look completely "clean" after 4 GB:


DVD+R Deja burned on Pioneer A07 FW 1.21 @4X
OPTODISC-0R8-000
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DVD-R Deja burned on Pioneer A07 FW 1.21 @4X
OPTODISC R008
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I know my posts are slightly off topic but I think that it is interesting to know about the quality of Optodisc medias sold so cheap under the surprising brand "DEJA".
So this was my last post with graphs
but still hope to have the opinion of you experts
about these 2 Optodisc DVD's 8x certified mediacodes

before I buy some more ...
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:08 pm

Wow!! You got OPTODISCR008 to burn that well on a Pioneer A07?!?!

That's something I've never been able to do for quite some time! I've even gotten it blacklisted on compatability firmwares sent out by some of Optodisc's vendors, in the hopes of preventing A07 owners from purchasing the media for that drive :o

Other then the PX-712a, the DVR-107/A07 is the only drive I've had major problems with OPTODISCR008 media on.
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Postby frank1 on Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:31 pm

Note: the burns on the Pioneer A07 were not made at 8x Z-CLV
but only at 4x CLV


I have already done a "creating data disc"
of this Optodisc R008 mediacode
with a NEC 3500 firmware 2.1A (Liggy)
and I posted the tests here:
http://forum.gravure-news.com/des-dvd-a ... tm?start=4


So I sacrifized an other of this DVD-R for a Creating Data Disc with my Pioneer A07 (firmware 1.22 by now)
and post it here for you.
I had less good quality after the 3,5 GB mark
for this creating data disc burned with CD DVD Speed v4.07
than with the videos burned in the DVD-video format with Nero 6.6.0.16.
Maybe there is some reason why ...



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Creating Data disc of a DVD-R Deja on Pioneer A07 firmware 1.22
OPTODISC R008

Tranfer rate under CD Speed v4.07:
Drive and firmware used for the tranfer rate explained here:
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic. ... 44&start=4

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Postby Ian on Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:35 am

Going back to the original discussion...

Has anyone heard anything more about this merger? According to DigiTimes, both companies are looking for investors. I find it surprising they'd be looking that far into the future if a merger is in the near future.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:49 pm

Ian wrote:Going back to the original discussion...

Has anyone heard anything more about this merger? According to DigiTimes, both companies are looking for investors. I find it surprising they'd be looking that far into the future if a merger is in the near future.


Unofficial word on it is that there's little chance of it happening now. Official word on it is that there is no official word on it at this time, please try again later.

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