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Wow!!!! Is It Really This Easy?

Postby hoxlund on Sun Nov 10, 2002 5:09 pm

I caught this site, http://www.vcdhelp.com/sefy/authoring1.html

after i rip the dvd files off the disc, is making a backup up this easy?

and if so, im buying a dvd burner, like now!!!!!

what do you guys recommend for dvd burners?

i work at best buy, and they just got in the new tdk dvd+rw drives, are those any good?

or how about that new sony multi drive which does both dvd+rw, and dvd-rw?

and i also can have a $250 rebate on the hp dvd 200i, would you recommend that one?
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Postby IndieSnob on Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:10 am

No, it isn't always that easy. Most newer dvd's are DVD9 (dual-layer disk) and are alot larger than the 4.7 limitation you have with blank dvd's. The only way to copy those is to a: use something like IFOEdit to split it to 2 dvd's, but you lose menu's and alot of other things doing this, or b: re-encoding the video/audio and re-authoring the dvd, which may lead to severe choppyness. Yes, it can be done, but, don't go in thinking that you can just copy every dvd out there without spending alot of time learning all the tricks and getting severely frustrated.
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Postby MonteLDS on Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:13 am

IndieSnob wrote:....don't go in thinking that you can just copy every dvd out there without spending alot of time learning all the tricks and getting severely frustrated.


BAHAHAHAA!!! that is so true!
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Postby hoxlund on Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:09 pm

well what happened with my blade dvd, it is a dual layer, but the actual dvd movie is about 4.6GB, so it would fit onto a regular dvd+r, im also not intrested in the menu system and all that junk, just the movie, so would i be fine there, if just the movie was under 4.7GB?

it would indeed be that easy to copy then?
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Postby IndieSnob on Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:38 pm

There is two flaws in what you think with your blade dvd.

#1: I won't get into the whole bits, bytes, etc. formula tables because I'm no expert in that arena, but I do know 4.6 gb is not what a blank dvd will actually hold.

#2: Just because the main movie is smaller, and you don't want the menu system, chapter listing etc. etc. does not mean you can just take those vobs and copy them to a dvd and expect it to play, even if it's under the the data size limit of your blank. There is actual ifo files embedded that tell the dvd what exactly is on it and how it should play it. You would have to use IFOEdit to edit all of that, and beleive me, you'd probably break about 4 keyboards in the process. The only way to do that is to read some guided on simple IFOedit stuff and you would have to split the dvd in 2, i.e. most of the movie on the first disc, and the rest of the movie and all extras on the second disc, but it doesn't always come out correctly.

Sorry to sound negative, but no one should go in thinking it's easy to copy every dvd out there.
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Postby hoxlund on Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:48 pm

so let me just clarify this, what i did, was use dvd decryptor, and it ripped the .ifo, .vob main movie files, so i can't put the .ifo, .vob, and the few others on a dvd, and burn it? even if the dvd movie is like 3GB?

some size that is really below the 4.7GB range
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Postby VEFF on Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:57 pm

The exact amount of data that a
so-called (same intentionally-incorrect formula and lie that all manfuacturers use for hard drive sizes) '4.7 GB' DVD-R or DVD+R disc will hold is actually 4.37 GB.
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Plextor PX-716A same TLA

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LiteOn 52246S (another)
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