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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:16 pm

Geez, what was Pioneer smoking? I could understand maybe Prodisc 8x DVD+Rs being certified, but their 8x DVD-Rs? And which code/formulation was certified?

This is starting to make me wonder if the rumour about Pioneer selling these certifications isn't a little more true then I gave it credit for initially.
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Postby Wesociety on Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:31 pm

Oh man...
Those ProdiscF01 discs are usually pretty crappy...
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Postby RJW on Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:31 pm

You forget something +R Philips approval has higher standard rules as -R standards.
So that Prodisc 8x DVD+R would get full approval (Not the provisional approval. Which says something like this product has batches that could work on some burners and with even some parameters inside the standard.) :D
is a really big step.

Also if Optodisc can get Pioneer approval so can Prodisc. (Note Optodisc 8x DVD+R isn't approved by Philips even not provisional approved.)

In general Prodisc seems to have a bit better support as Optodisc and is more playable.Also less really bad stuff falls trough.(visible defects )
However when it comes to longlivety it seems that prodisc still has some work to do. Optodisc scores a better on this.
Still both have there issues and that's why non of them get a recommendation from me.

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Postby Wesociety on Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:40 pm

I'll have to agree that Optodisc quality control is pretty shitty.
I've had spindles were 1 disc will fail miserably (burn process failed) and the next disc in the same spindle is a perfect burn (OPTODISCOR8).
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Re: Prodisc 8x DVD-Rs now Pioneer Certified

Postby Gen-An on Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:43 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:Geez, what was Pioneer smoking? I could understand maybe Prodisc 8x DVD+Rs being certified, but their 8x DVD-Rs? And which code/formulation was certified?


Probably MCC02RG20 :lol:
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:19 pm

Wesociety wrote:I'll have to agree that Optodisc quality control is pretty shitty.
I've had spindles were 1 disc will fail miserably (burn process failed) and the next disc in the same spindle is a perfect burn (OPTODISCOR8).


The best Optodisc is always under Acro Circle brand :wink: (well, not true, the *BEST* is sold by MAM-E, but other then that it's Acro Circle :P)
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:22 pm

RJW wrote:You forget something +R Philips approval has higher standard rules as -R standards.
So that Prodisc 8x DVD+R would get full approval (Not the provisional approval. Which says something like this product has batches that could work on some burners and with even some parameters inside the standard.) :D
is a really big step.

Also if Optodisc can get Pioneer approval so can Prodisc. (Note Optodisc 8x DVD+R isn't approved by Philips even not provisional approved.)

In general Prodisc seems to have a bit better support as Optodisc and is more playable.Also less really bad stuff falls trough.(visible defects )
However when it comes to longlivety it seems that prodisc still has some work to do. Optodisc scores a better on this.
Still both have there issues and that's why non of them get a recommendation from me.

Pioneer Certification is not sold.


Optodisc only has Pioneer certification on their 4x DVD-RWs as far as I know. As far as their quality goes, I think their 8x DVD+Rs are probably a little better supported then their 8x DVD-Rs.

As for longevity, yes, Optodisc is quite good for that on most occasions and in general I'm quite impressed.
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Postby hoxlund on Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:46 am

so the prodisc s04 work at what speed now?

i think those were the ones that were only 4x
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:41 pm

hoxlund wrote:so the prodisc s04 work at what speed now?

i think those were the ones that were only 4x


Well, we don't know what code Prodisc had certified... I'm still trying to actually get ahold of this supposed document of certification too :-?

It's possible that Prodisc has *SOME* media that is certified... but that doesn't mean that is what they are selling. They are being quite vague on the details, and given how many codes we *KNOW* Prodisc makes, it wouldn't surprise me if there were one or two more that aren't known of by the general burning public.
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Postby RJW on Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:03 pm

Hmm.
FUJI and MCC A-grade both should be of high enough quality to get Pioneer certified.
The own codes of prodisc can be anything.

Also I really laughed when they said DVD+R 16x certified by Pioneer.
(Why not go to Philips/SONY/RICOH which are really the +R compannies . Oops ohyeah because Philips has put some higher standards up for that one.
And I don't think Ricoh and SONY are cetifiying yet. Still the standards are the same.

Also for Dual Layer DVD+R what were Philips and Mitsubishi thinking the stuff has higher standards as normal dual layer dvd-rom !! So I think the crappy hongkong/Taiwan compannies will be happy if -R launches with again nicer standards. I can still see -R becomming big if Philips and Mitsubishi really hold to there standards and -R just again goes easy.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:39 pm

RJW wrote:Hmm.


Also I really laughed when they said DVD+R 16x certified by Pioneer.


Yeah, I also really wondered about that....
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Postby hydrogen on Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:02 pm

Is there any Prodisc media that is as good as the ProdiscS03 4x dvd-r media was? That media was awesome.

Also, wasn't the PRODISC.R02 4x dvd+r media good? I heard it was.
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Postby RJW on Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:22 am

Prodisc R02 was provisional approved by Philips.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:46 pm

RJW wrote:Prodisc R02 was provisional approved by Philips.


To bad you can't get it anymore...
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Postby hydrogen on Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:36 pm

I'm confused why no one replied to my question. Has no one used any Prodisc dvds after the Prodisc S03s?

How is the 8x Prodisc 8x dvd-r and dvd+r? Are there diferent media ids and are any of them any good? Is there a media id that I should avoid?

If I bought Prodisc 4x dvd-r media today, what media id would it have? I loved the ProdiscS03, but I'm not sure if the 4x dvd-r, that is sold today, is still that media id.

Hopefully someone can help me out. I hope everyone has a great Christmas and Happy New Year :D
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Postby hoxlund on Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:49 pm

the prodisc's s04's that i had were ok, just rather use TY TYG02
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Postby hydrogen on Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:10 am

Hoxlund,

Thank you for replying. I hope your having a good Christmas.

I saw that you mentioned that the ProdiscS04 could only be burnt at 4x. Do they burn at 8x in any burner?

I have seen ProdiscF01 media id code. It's Prodisc 8x dvd-r. Is it any good?

Does anyone know what the difference between ProdiscS04 and ProdiscF01 when they are both 8x dvd-r media? Which one is better?

After using ProdiscS03, I became of fan of Prodisc. So, I'm kind of interested about them.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:23 am

Since I'm an avid Prodisc non-fan, I can't really answer your question... but I *CAN* tell you that when a distributor of Prodisc media order 8x DVD-Rs from Prodisc, PRODISCS04, PRODISCF01, and FUJIFILM03, are all potential discs that could arrive in that shipment. If you are really unlucky, you might get all three types in a single shipment.

It makes me happy that I haven't been a Prodisc distributor in over 3 years now :D
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Postby hoxlund on Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:06 am

with my stock firmware it is only 4x, if i were to load up nils firmware it could be 16x

but i don't buy prodisc anymore, i like the quality of the TY media
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Postby Scour on Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:48 pm

Hello!

I thought Fujifilm03 was manufactured by Prodisc. Someone tell me now, that Fujifilm03 is produced for Prodisc from Ritek.

Could that be, that Ritek produce media for a big competitor?
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:54 pm

Scour wrote:Hello!

I thought Fujifilm03 was manufactured by Prodisc. Someone tell me now, that Fujifilm03 is produced for Prodisc from Ritek.

Could that be, that Ritek produce media for a big competitor?


I *HIGHLY* doubt Ritek does that.
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Postby Scour on Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:15 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:I *HIGHLY* doubt Ritek does that.


Me too :)

It´s not so easy to find out, Made in Taiwan could be Ritek, Prodisc and CMC. Hm, i should look at my Platinum -R 8x (G05) and Philis -R 8x (Fujifilm03), maybe the serial-numbers say something about the manufacturer.

Look at this:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=116800
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Postby Gen-An on Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:03 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:Since I'm an avid Prodisc non-fan, I can't really answer your question... but I *CAN* tell you that when a distributor of Prodisc media order 8x DVD-Rs from Prodisc, PRODISCS04, PRODISCF01, and FUJIFILM03, are all potential discs that could arrive in that shipment.


Not to mention MCC02RG20...
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Postby RJW on Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:08 pm

Ritek is not produceing for prodisc but for FUJI or other big oem's with this code.

Your Philips Fujifilm03 are likely to be Ritek or MBIL manufacturerd.

There is some confusion if CMC has access to the FUJIFILM03 code. Can anyone proof it wrong or right. ?

Ritek makes these disc's for some big oem's usseing FUJI dye and MID code. :D. We are talking Philips, FUJI, MEMOREX.
Philips also has FUJIFILM03 made by MBIL and is supposed to have made by CMC according to some sources but newer info I have make me have some doubts about these. So that's why I ask can someone proof these.

Imation and Intenso FUJFILM03 are mostly made by MBIL.
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Postby Scour on Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:51 pm

RJW wrote:Your Philips Fujifilm03 are likely to be Ritek or MBIL manufacturerd.



When Made in Taiwan it can only be Ritek or Prodisc, right?
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