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Samsung SH-S182D Quickie Preview

Postby Ian on Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:54 pm

Samsung's new 18x DVD writer showed up today. While I'm at work and can't do any write quality testing, I figured I'd post a few screenshots.

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Postby Ian on Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:58 pm

I had some 16x Verbatim media at work. Luckily it worked at 18x.

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The SH-S182D is a few seconds slower than the Plextor PX-760A. At least with Verbatim media and CD Speed.

I wasn't able to change the booktype via CD Speed. However, it automatically changed the booktype to DVD-ROM for DVD+R media. [Edit: CD Speed seems to change it. The status just doesn't show up right on my computer].

If I have time, I'll post some writing quality scans tonite. Maybe even some 12x DVD-RAM tests.
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Postby Scour on Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:02 pm

Looks fast, but LGs P-CAV still beat all 8)
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Postby Gen-An on Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:11 pm

Scour wrote:Looks fast, but LGs P-CAV still beat all 8)


If LG used a more aggressive WOPC strategy like the other drives do, it wouldn't beat them. The lack of such a strategy can produce some ugly results on some of the non-Japanese media (or on slightly lower quality batches of Jpn discs).
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Postby Scour on Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:20 pm

I saw many scans in which LG kicked others ass on non TY/MCC-media and without the WOPC 8)
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Postby MonsterMan on Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:37 pm

Why use anything but TY/MCC?

Cheap media = crappy results. If you expect otherwise...you're in for a nasty surprise.

The real surprise, though, is when the cheap stuff does produced good results.

Not that I'd expect any cheapy media to actually last very long...good results or not.

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Postby Ian on Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:26 am

I posted a few BenQ scans from those discs I burned yesterday.

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=157132

I need to retest the MCC 004 as I'm not too happy with those results. However, the results with MCC 03RG20 were surprisingly good.
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Postby [buck] on Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:36 am

Gen-An wrote:
Scour wrote:Looks fast, but LGs P-CAV still beat all 8)


If LG used a more aggressive WOPC strategy like the other drives do, it wouldn't beat them. The lack of such a strategy can produce some ugly results on some of the non-Japanese media (or on slightly lower quality batches of Jpn discs).

I suspect the 18X burn speed is much more detrimental to quality than the lack of an aggressive WOPC strategy, especially with quality media. And quality media is the only media that can really handle the 18X burn speed to begin with!
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Postby Scour on Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:53 pm

Ian wrote:I need to retest the MCC 004 as I'm not too happy with those results. However, the results with MCC 03RG20 were surprisingly good.


Is more than 1500 PIF really good for the MCC03RG20?
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Postby Ian on Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:13 am

CD Freaks have posted a few results, scanned with a Lite-On:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=184536

I hate to break it to the news poster, but they weren't the first with DVD+R and DVD-R screenshots. :roll:
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:19 pm

Ian wrote:CD Freaks have posted a few results, scanned with a Lite-On:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=184536

I hate to break it to the news poster, but they weren't the first with DVD+R and DVD-R screenshots. :roll:


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Postby karangguni on Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:10 pm

Ian wrote:CD Freaks have posted a few results, scanned with a Lite-On:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=184536

I hate to break it to the news poster, but they weren't the first with DVD+R and DVD-R screenshots. :roll:


You don't have to, someone already pointed it out :) :
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/13596

Seriously though, I don't really care who comes out with a drive review for any model first. I suppose its good for bragging rights, but if both review a certain drive, I read both reviews. I've often found one review misses something another picks up on.

There aren't that many sites that do decent detailed drive reviews which stay up to date with recent models. Both sites are actually pretty much operating a closed shop. I read reviews from both sites as a clueless newbie trying to buy a DVD writer and I still refer people asking me about what drives to buy to the reviews of both sites.
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Postby MacClipper on Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:49 am

Ian wrote:I posted a few BenQ scans from those discs I burned yesterday.

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=157132


You may want to consider increasing the displayed maximum speed option to 18x or even 20x so the burn curve does not get truncated. See this illustration (17x as highlighted),

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Postby Ian on Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:37 am

Yeah, I noticed that. The odd thing is, I always have it set to 18x by default.
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Postby MacClipper on Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:30 pm

Ah, version 4.5x did introduce quite a few niggling bugs, must be yet another one.

On hindsight, I see that you had actually set yours to 20x from the 2nd post in this thread.

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Postby Ian on Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:44 am

Ah, there that damn option is.
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