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Taiyo Yudens. Are they REAL?

Postby Lsportline43 on Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:17 pm

I bought some Taiyo Yudens from ebay and they just came in. I was wondering if they were real. I heard that they have to have some features like frosted hub. Also the serial number is suppose to be in a straight line? The Taiyo Yudens that I ordered have a custom black cover side? Also they didn't have any special screw on the top of the spindle saying it was made in japan! Are they real?
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Postby rdgrimes on Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:43 pm

there's only one way to find out, check the ATIP info.
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Postby TheWizard on Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:28 pm

To check the ATIP, use Nero InfoTool or CDR Identifier.
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Postby RJW on Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:34 pm

Use cdrindentifier or K-probe or plextools or smartburn or Nero to find out the atip.
Still this doesn't say it all since I have seen disc's with Fake TY atip befor.(same counts for Kodak and Mitsui !)

Can you post all serial numbers that ar on the disc. Most times this is
for TY media hub - and underside just befor the recording part.
If you can could you post a scan/pics of the media and spindle. If there is more post them to.

Isn't there a frosted hub ?
That would be strange since so far any real TY cd-r I have seen had a frosted hub. Has anyone spotted a (real) TY cd-r without a frosted hub ?
However it seems that TY dvd+r are not frosted. My -R media is not there yet it will probally arrive in a couple of weeks.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:00 pm

TY DVD-Rs are not frosted in the hub, only their CD-Rs
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Postby Lsportline43 on Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:03 pm

The hub is frosted, but I thought that the serial number was suppose to be written in a straight line. The serial code on one disc is: 80 PG1305 I bought them off of ebay from the ebay store PMGdisc. They are under Taiyo Yuden if you want to see them. PMGdisc says that they are real and that this black cover is there own custom design.
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Postby TheWizard on Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:30 am

That serial number sounds like something PMGdisc imprinted. Have you gotten a chance to look at the ATIP yet?
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Postby Lsportline43 on Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:54 am

Yeah the ATIP says that Taiyo Yuden makes them and that they are CD-Rs with 700 mb capacity. Does this prove that they are Taiyo Yudens? Don't know if this will help, but the serial code on the center hub is TH371B0881180
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:07 am

Confirmed. Those serial numbers are *deffinatly* Taiyo Yuden, I have no doubt in my mind at all :D
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Postby Lsportline43 on Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:55 am

Thanks a lot. Now I know that I have the real thing. Don't know if this matters, but the first letter was really "Y" I mis typed it in. Does this mean anything? Hope it doesn't. Thanks.
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Postby Lsportline43 on Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:10 am

Also if these Taiyo Yudens are real I suggest people buy some. They have a nice black design that is very much unique. You can see them on Ebay. PMGdisc is the Ebay store that sells them. Once you are in PMGdisc Ebay store search "Taiyo Yuden". You will find them there. The company that sells them is called PMG, Inc. They are based in Arizona. Their warehouse is in California. I also like how they do business. So I do recommend this purchase.
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Postby RJW on Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:28 am

The mistypping doesn't matter. There real.
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Postby Lsportline43 on Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:29 am

Ok, so they are real. Thanks for everybodies help.
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Postby NuGuy on Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:31 pm

Lsportline43 -

These discs would seem to be a practical and relatively economical solution to the "Archival Quality of CD Media" topic posted in this forum, based on the feedback there.

How are you labeling these? With that black surface, you probably couldn't see the standard type of CD labeling pens (red, blue, green, black colored inks). I'm thinking one of the gold or silver marking pens I've seen.... (in arts & crafts stores, party favor departments, etc.)
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Postby Lsportline43 on Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:43 pm

I think I will use the silver markers. Don't know yet. I haven't really used them yet. I am waiting to get my CD MP3/OGG player and then I will be using them for that. By the way I have an iRiver iMP-550. Thanks.
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Postby RJW on Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:22 am

Watch out with the markers you use. Some solvents can still damage cd-r's. For archiving I wouldn't recommend writing on disc's with any solvents based marker.
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Postby Lsportline43 on Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:03 pm

Really? The black material on the Taiyo Yudens seems to very thick. I don't think that the ink will effect the cd-r. Well just to make sure maybe I will use a sticker for labeling. Or what inks should I stay away from?
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Postby CDRecorder on Sun Feb 01, 2004 6:55 pm

I've heard that stickers are probably the worst type of labeling for discs. I've been using black Sharpie markers to label my CDs when I label them at all. When I want a disc for long-time data storage, I only label the packaging to avoid any possibility of damaging the disc.
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Postby Jim on Sun Feb 01, 2004 7:14 pm

CDRecorder wrote:I've heard that stickers are probably the worst type of labeling for discs. I've been using black Sharpie markers to label my CDs when I label them at all. When I want a disc for long-time data storage, I only label the packaging to avoid any possibility of damaging the disc.


I picked up a pack of label pens from Best Buy when they had them on sale last year. They claim to be CDR safe. But I do the same as you for long term data storage.

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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:13 pm

Jim wrote:
CDRecorder wrote:I've heard that stickers are probably the worst type of labeling for discs. I've been using black Sharpie markers to label my CDs when I label them at all. When I want a disc for long-time data storage, I only label the packaging to avoid any possibility of damaging the disc.


I picked up a pack of label pens from Best Buy when they had them on sale last year. They claim to be CDR safe. But I do the same as you for long term data storage.

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I use HDDs combined with CDR *AND* DVDR backups for long term storage. I mainly rely on my HDD, but keep the CD-Rs and DVDRs just in case of a head crash. But I don't have a lot of stuff that needs this sort of long term archival protection.
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Postby Centrilium on Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:34 am

I got to warn some of you though...not all TYs are made in Japan.I have some Sony Supremas which is claimed to be TYs but the box states that they are made in Taiwan instead.It may be fake but the ATIP shows that they are Ty and the dye type is exacty the same green type "super cyanine" used by TY.You can't just judge by looking at them..
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Postby RJW on Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:58 am

It is known in Europe that Sony (a long with verbatim )do make packageing mistakes !
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