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Postby BigSammy on Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:46 pm

I'm using DVD Shrink to rip DVDs and back them up using Nero OEM. When I go through this process the first time, my home theater DVD player won't recognize the backup DVD and my computer won't play the sound from it.

But -- and here's where it gets weird -- when I make a backup of the backup, using the very same process as making a back from the original, Backup 2 works no problem in both players.

There's just one thing that's different about each part. When I back up from an original, I can set the burn rate in DVD Shrink to maximum, 1x, 2x or 2.4x. When I make the backup from the backup disk, I can choose Maximum, 4x, 6x, 8x, and 12x.

In both cases, when I choose Maximum, it says it is burning the files at 12x, even though my media is Fujifilm 8x DVD+R. And in most cases, that speed on that media in this burner (Lite-On SOHW-1213S) means a coaster.

So I guess my main question is: how come a DVD ripped and burned from the original won't play, but one ripped and burned from the "bad" copy is good.

By the way, I've repeated this process no less than 10 times now and I've saved the coasters. Neither versions of these will play in my cheapo bedroom Apex DVD player, which is weird. I'll keep trying them in other DVD players as I find them.

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Postby CowboySlim on Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:41 pm

All I can think is that it might be a bitsetting/booktyping issue in that your player can't read DVD-Rs or DVD+Rs, whichever you are trying to make. But, if so, why the Nero copy makes it like a DVDD-ROM to the player baffles me.

I've used both Nero and DVDShrink to make DVD+R copies and they play in my $40 Cyberhome player straightaway.

Anyway, to prevent coasters, make your first burn to an "erased" (not formatted) DVD+RW, then copy from that. Erase prior to each burn.

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Postby BigSammy on Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:41 am

First backing up to a DVDRW is a good idea, thanks.

My problem is that it practically doubles the time it takes to shrink/backup (about 35 minutes normally and about 35 minutes the second time through to get a backup that plays). Ideally, I'd like to figure out why I can't get a good copy the first time through the process.

One thing I didn't mention in my original post. When I back up the first time (which produces a DVD that won't play) I burn at 2.4x (which is slower than 8x rating of my media, but the fastest speed option other than Maximum available on the burn tab of DVD-Shrink) . When I make a backup from that "bad" DVD (which always works) I burn at 8.0x.

One other thought, could the shrink/decrypt process have anything to do with this? When I'm making a backup of the backup, there's no shrinking or decrypting necessary.
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Postby BigSammy on Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:35 pm

Just bumping this one more time to see if anyone has any ideas.
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Postby ETP on Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:51 pm

Update your FW. Media problems start with FW.

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