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Using SATA->PATA adapters on DVD burners ( seriller ) ?

Postby Halc on Mon May 16, 2005 1:54 am

Has anybody used SATA to Parallel ATA converters succesfully with their DVD burners (other than the Plextor models)?

I'm running out of PATA controller slots and out of PCI slots. The next chance is buying a SATA controller into the PCI-E slot (or a stack of external USB/FW drives, which I'd rather not do).

So, I'm asking if todays parallel ata interface drives work ok on a SATA bus using an adapter?

Anybody?
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Postby Tornado on Mon May 16, 2005 7:15 am

I am using an SATA adapter (came with my motherboard) on my Liteon 52327S and it works fine. Kprobe works fine and I have burned quite a few CDs with no problem.
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Postby Halc on Mon May 16, 2005 9:04 am

Thanks for the info!

Any more people with experiences.

I'm especially interested, if you are running an optical drive off an add-on PCI SATA controller (ie. not using motherboards built-in SATA ports).
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Postby CowboySlim on Mon May 16, 2005 11:05 am

I tried it and it doesn't work so well and the manufacturer of the drive didn't claim that it would. Works great on a hard drive.

I bought the PATA to USB adapter and put it on the back of an optical drive. That works great. Plugged it into one of those $10 PCI slot USB cards with 4 external jacks and one internal.
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Postby Halc on Mon May 16, 2005 12:02 pm

Thanks!

Heh, it didn't even come to my head that I could use USB to PATA converters.

Someting that I should definitely look into. Wouldn't have to buy new controllers either.
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Postby SkaarjMaster on Mon May 16, 2005 4:25 pm

So when are DVD burners supposed to go SATA? I thought it was just for hard drives right now. I never thought of using converters. Some interesting info here.
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Postby CowboySlim on Mon May 16, 2005 11:09 pm

There is no functional advantage in a SATA optical. Opticals operate at DMA2 speed and don't even approach saturating an IDE cable.
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Postby Wesociety on Tue May 17, 2005 6:31 pm

CowboySlim wrote:There is no functional advantage in a SATA optical. Opticals operate at DMA2 speed and don't even approach saturating an IDE cable.

Yeah... but Blu-ray and HD-DVD burning could definitely make use of the higher data transfer rates. 8)
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Postby Ian on Tue May 17, 2005 6:43 pm

I'd just like to see a hard drive take full advantage of SATA... :roll:
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Postby CowboySlim on Tue May 17, 2005 10:02 pm

Does anyone know where I can get a SATA floppy drive?

Does Hox have one on eBay?
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Postby Alektron on Wed May 25, 2005 6:12 pm

The main reason I prefer a SATA DVD burner is because it is easier to connect it inside the pc. My hard drive is SATA too, so no more ribbon cables. (Except for the stupid floppy that I rarely use).

It would be interesting..*cough-Ian-cough* to know if there is any detriment to performance if you try to Read from a DVD at 16x and write to DVD+R at 16x on the same shared IDE cable...On-the-fly. Then compare that to the same test on two SATA-connected DVD burners. Would the shared IDE configuration be worse than the SATA one?


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Postby Halc on Thu May 26, 2005 4:04 pm

Yes it would.

It would be impossible to read and write at 16x on the same ide/cable.

The slave/master synchronisation and shared load does not allow that.

I've tried.

I'm now looking at external firewire 5,25 x 6 -slot towers, that have an Oxford based chipset.

That is, a tower that would allow me to put 5,25" PATA drives to a firewire tower case and plug the tower to my computer using single firewire cable (I only need to use 1 or 2 drives at the same time from the tower).

Anybody know such towers?
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Postby Ian on Thu May 26, 2005 4:50 pm

Halc wrote:It would be impossible to read and write at 16x on the same ide/cable.

The slave/master synchronisation and shared load does not allow that.

I've tried.


Me too.. with 48x CD-RW drives back in the day. It couldn't keep the drives' buffers filled because it could not pass data to both at the same time.

That is, a tower that would allow me to put 5,25" PATA drives to a firewire tower case and plug the tower to my computer using single firewire cable (I only need to use 1 or 2 drives at the same time from the tower).

Anybody know such towers?


What if you used internal IDE to FireWire adapters? Depending on the number drives in the tower, you could do 1 or 2 FireWire chains and then run them out to your computer. This way you could write to one, two, or all at the same time. Of course, the software would need to support multiple recorders.
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Postby Boba_Fett on Thu May 26, 2005 6:04 pm

Ian wrote:I'd just like to see a hard drive take full advantage of SATA... :roll:


Seeing how no consumer HDD could fully take advantage of a PATA line (133MBps), I doubt we'll see that any time soon...
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