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Verbatim 6x or 4x DVD-RW media? Alternatives?

Postby hrbngr on Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:54 pm

I have read some post on here and cdfreaks.com that seem to indicate that the Verbatim 6x DVD-RW media are some of the best rewriteable media available. However, I cannot seem to find anyone that is selling them.

If someone has had success purchasing or using these, please reply where you found them or if you recommend any alternatives---I would really love to find some quality 8X DVD+/- RW--that is if they burn well in the drives i use below.

I have also heard some good things about the Sony S11 media, but only the MIJ discs.

I own (2) DW1640s, a 165P6S, and a nec3500.
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Postby evilboy on Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:05 pm

Only 8x DVD+RW available are Ricoh and Ritek.
So if you want to go high speed, 6x Verbatim RW is the only way to go. :)
4x Verbies are ok too, but slooooow.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:37 pm

I only know NCIX.com for companies selling Verbatim 6x DVD-RWs in Canada. Maybe check Meritline.com or Supermediastore.com ??
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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:43 pm

are the Ricoh 8x DVD+RWs Ricoh brand with Ritek MID Ritek 008 or is there a Ricoh MID ?
is there such a thing as Ricoh-branded 8x DVD+RW ?
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Postby hrbngr on Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:20 pm

ok,
just verified it on the three sites for verbatim 6X dvd-rw media:

NCIX - verb 6X -RW single jewel case only, $3.81 each...OUCH! :o

Meritline -- nothing, nadda, zippo, zilch.

supermediastore -- nothing, nadda, zippo, zilch.

rima.com -- lists a 15pk cake box, but no info on which part it is.

so, can anyone recommend an alternative? any MIJ stuff? 4x is fine, as long as I can reburn the disks a lot.
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Postby DrageMester on Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:24 pm

dodecahedron wrote:are the Ricoh 8x DVD+RWs Ricoh brand with Ritek MID Ritek 008 or is there a Ricoh MID ?
is there such a thing as Ricoh-branded 8x DVD+RW ?

There are Ricoh branded 8x DVD+RWs with a RICOHJPN W21 MID. I bought a 10-pack from SVP.co.uk.

They are compatible with more of my drives (and my recorder) than RITEK 008 media. I use it mainly for fast transfers from my HDD/DVD recorder to my PC, but I have also tested them in some DVD burners: BenQ DW1655 , LiteOn SHM-165P6S and Pioneer DVR-111L.

The burn quality is also fine IMO.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:20 pm

Well, if you're going to go for 4x, then Verbatim 4x DVD+RWs (which you can get in 30pks) are probably your best bet. The Sony MIJ are maybe even better, but they are harder and harder to find.

I think the Verbatim 6x DVD-RWs will be going on sale for ~$2 CAD per disc on Thursday at NCIX also.
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Postby hrbngr on Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:17 pm

has anyone ever purchased from cyberguys?

here's the link:
http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/sear ... ctID=10093

$1.65 in quantity is not too bad of a price. but don't know how reliable they are.


also, one other link here:

http://www.computergiants.com/items/one ... 9572&aff=1

$1.29...however, the pic they show is the 2x-4x media
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Postby hrbngr on Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:24 pm

D-rex,

any idea of where to find the Sony MIJ media? is the preferred type -rw or +rw? what speed is the Sony discs?
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Postby [buck] on Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:29 pm

hrbngr wrote:any idea of where to find the Sony MIJ media? is the preferred type -rw or +rw? what speed is the Sony discs?

Various B&M outlets such as Staples and Circuit City stock Sony RWs. You'll have to take a look at your local stores' stock to see if they have MIJ stock. You're going to want to look for the 4x DVD+RWs, because the DVD-RWs are 2x, and rarely MIJ. Keep in mind if you don't find them on sale they'll be quite expensive.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:59 pm

hrbngr wrote:D-rex,

any idea of where to find the Sony MIJ media? is the preferred type -rw or +rw? what speed is the Sony discs?


As [Buck] said, you need to go in store and take a look. Only the DVD+RWs are really worth getting. The DVD-RWs are 2x only, and I haven't seen any MIJ either.
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Postby dodecahedron on Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:55 am

DrageMester wrote:There are Ricoh branded 8x DVD+RWs with a RICOHJPN W21 MID. I bought a 10-pack from SVP.co.uk.

They are compatible with more of my drives (and my recorder) than RITEK 008 media. I use it mainly for fast transfers from my HDD/DVD recorder to my PC, but I have also tested them in some DVD burners: BenQ DW1655 , LiteOn SHM-165P6S and Pioneer DVR-111L.

The burn quality is also fine IMO.

thank you DrageMester.
right now svp doesn't have them listed on the DVD+RW page.
are the RICOHJPN W21 better than the RITERK 008 in your opinion ?
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Postby DrageMester on Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:15 pm

dodecahedron wrote:right now svp doesn't have them listed on the DVD+RW page.
are the RICOHJPN W21 better than the RITERK 008 in your opinion ?
That's too bad.

Yes, I think my RICOHJPN W21 are better than my RITEK 008, but that's based on only a single disc of each - but burned in multiple drives.

The RICOHJPN W21 are certainly more compatible with current drives than RITEK 008.

It's entirely possible that this is a result of poor firmware support and not an intrinsic quality difference, because my NEC ND-4551A manages to burn the RITEK 008 very well.
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Postby hrbngr on Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:26 pm

D-Rex,

thanks for the info on the Sony discs, most of the local OM, OD, Staples have blown out the MIJ stuff only the MIT stuff is left.

have you ever heard of any of the retailers i posted above? has anyone else purchased from either of the US sellers? cyberguys/computergiants?

thanks!
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:32 pm

hrbngr wrote:have you ever heard of any of the retailers i posted above? has anyone else purchased from either of the US sellers? cyberguys/computergiants?

thanks!


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Postby hrbngr on Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:24 pm

So,

I ended up buying the Verbatim 6x dvd-rws from Cyberguys at the $1.65 price. here are some cd speed quality tests: (1) from a liton 165p6s and the other from a benq dw1640. If these discs last even 1/2 the 1000 writes that Verbatim quotes, then I will be very happy w/this deal...
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Postby Ian on Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:21 pm

Those are great results hrbngr. Serenity is a good movie too.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:34 am

Glad you found some at a good price hrbngr :D Excellent results too! That's why I love Verbatim's 6x DVD-RWs :wink:
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Postby hrbngr on Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:34 pm

Ian/D-Rex,

thanks for the replies. So, for curiousity's sake, do either of you work w/ +/- RWs enough to know when discs are starting to degrade? What would show up on a quality test as evidence of this?
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Postby Ian on Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:56 pm

I really couldn't say. I tend to scratch my discs before they have a chance to actually degrade that much.
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