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Postby hoxlund on Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:19 am

long link at microsoft
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Installed mine just a few minutes ago, so far everything is working ok
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Postby Boba_Fett on Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:09 pm

64-Bit Windows will be 100% useless until Longhorn pushes the industry to start making shit that takes advantage of 64-bit. I hear 32-bit apps run slower in Windows 64-bit edition...
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Postby hoxlund on Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:24 pm

doesn't surprise me, but so far my hardware keeps up so i cant see a speed difference
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Postby VEFF on Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:16 pm

Boba_Fett wrote:64-Bit Windows will be 100% useless until Longhorn pushes the industry to start making shit that takes advantage of 64-bit. I hear 32-bit apps run slower in Windows 64-bit edition...


Interesting about 32 bits apps actually running slower; you would think
they would design the 64 bit OS to ensure that if a 32 bit-based app is run 64-bit Windows would act in a 32 bit mode (that they could have built in at design time).
Then again I don't know the technical specifications.

In any case, I think it will be long time before a reasonable number of 64 bit apps come out.
Software manufacturers aren't going to spend their development budgets on something that there will be a limited demand for (initially) due to lack of PCs with the 64-bit OS installed.
If they are given incentives (by Microsoft) things might be different.
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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:46 pm

VEFF wrote:Interesting about 32 bits apps actually running slower; you would think
they would design the 64 bit OS to ensure that if a 32 bit-based app is run 64-bit Windows would act in a 32 bit mode (that they could have built in at design time).

they design the chip so that it can run 32 bit applications. but then it's primarily a 64 bit chip. so adding the functionality of 32 bit compatiblity onto the 64 bit structure is an addendum and requires extra effort.
so it's really not surprising at all.

put another way - if they designed the chip so that running at 32 bit wouldn't be slower than a native 32 bit chip, well the price would come from somewhere else.
either poorer 64 bit performance - and nobody wants that!
or bigger chip for more hardware in it - making it more expensive, perhaps hotter etc. etc.
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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:58 pm

out of curiousity, what's the size of that download, hox ?
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Postby JamieW on Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:44 pm

What's a "bit?"
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Postby MediumRare on Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:49 pm

JamieW wrote:What's a "bit?"

It's a German beer brand (comes from Bitburg in the Eiffel hills SW of Cologne).

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Postby Ian on Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:08 pm

Damn, I feel like a loser. Here I sit wasting my time downloading ZENworks 6.5 SP1 RC1...
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Postby JamieW on Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:32 pm

Ok, now that I know what a bit is you'd think that someone with 64 bits would run slower than someone with 32 bits.
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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:41 pm

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Postby overclockxp on Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:44 pm

From a PC World article...

For example, Longhorn won't be exclusively 64-bit; there will also be a 32-bit version. "The 16-to-32-bit change took a good ten years," muses Tom Halfhill, senior analyst at Microprocessor Report. "You have to think it's going to take another five years before [64-bit computing] is ubiquitous."


So it will be a while before 64 bit goes mainstream.
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Postby Ian on Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:20 pm

Just be thankful this version of XP isn't all 64 bit. The one for Itanium is.. and it lacks a lot of features (CD burning, etc) because they are 32 bit.
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Postby stix on Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:29 am

Microsoft site says the size of the download is approx 450MB.
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Postby Alejandra on Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:56 pm

MediumRare wrote:It's a German beer brand (comes from Bitburg in the Eiffel hills SW of Cologne).

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Postby BuddhaTB on Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:48 pm

Thanks for the heads up
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Postby LoneWolf on Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:16 pm

AFIAK, the RC1 build has been out for some time now. All the announcements were for the RC2 build, which apparently is available to developers and subscribers, but is not on MS's site for public beta testing at this point.

The RC1 build is 1289 I believe, the RC2 build is 1433. That's the build I'm waiting to try.
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Postby Rich on Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:23 am

I used the link but keep cycling between 2-3 screens unable to get to the file.


One has system requirements with a continue button.
I press continue and go to a page that says my basket is empty.
I click on the link "Browse the catalog and add a product." and am sent to a page that says product unavailable and under that is a link that says "Download Version" which I click and go back to the first page.

I enable cookies for microsoft.com.

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Postby Spazmogen on Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:26 pm

Thanks.

I got the .iso and burned it with the CD Key that MS provided in their e-mail. Ultra ISO is a wonderful program for adding stuff (like CD Keys) to the original ISO before you burn it.

Perhaps one day I'll upgrade to a processor that can run it.

My P3 1ghz is not up to it.
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Postby Rich on Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:45 am

Rich wrote:I used the link but keep cycling between 2-3 screens unable to get to the file.


One has system requirements with a continue button.
I press continue and go to a page that says my basket is empty.
I click on the link "Browse the catalog and add a product." and am sent to a page that says product unavailable and under that is a link that says "Download Version" which I click and go back to the first page.

I enable cookies for microsoft.com.

?

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I fixed it myself. I just had to add m..s.com to the trusted sites.
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Postby Rich on Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:40 am

This thing's requirements listed P4, so, would a P4- 2ghz Celeron be enough you think?

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Postby hoxlund on Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:49 am

well you could install it but why? you don't have 64 bit support on your processor
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Postby Rich on Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:00 am

hoxlund wrote:well you could install it but why? you don't have 64 bit support on your processor


Ok, I'll just save it for the future.
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Postby LoneWolf on Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:15 pm

RC2 (Build 1433) is now out, at the same link as RC1 was at. Should be a better release with more support. I already have it downloaded, but won't be installing it until I can devote a separate partition for it.

At any rate, MS is supposed to allow 32-bit client licensees to convert to 64-bit licenses on a 1-for-1 basis at no charge, from what I've heard. So if you already have XP-32, you can get 64 when it ships if you need it. There is an expiration date on all release candidates; most MS demos or RC's I've seen have either 120 or 360 days.
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