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Postby Bhairav on Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:44 am

Dodeca, try upgrading to B7T9. Give it a shot.. all those awesome 99 Quality Scores seem to be with T9..
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Postby dodecahedron on Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:46 am

will do.
(just as soon as i'm finished - i'm right now in the middle of a complete system backup. 4 DVDs - that's all my life's worth...how lame is that ?)

is B7T9 supposed to be better than B7V9 ?
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Postby Bhairav on Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:46 pm

dodecahedron wrote:will do.
(just as soon as i'm finished - i'm right now in the middle of a complete system backup. 4 DVDs - that's all my life's worth...how lame is that ?)

is B7T9 supposed to be better than B7V9 ?


:o I backup 4 DVDs every week! I bet hox goes through 4 DVDs a night :lol:

B7T9 seems to be as good, if not better than V9, so try it first.
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Postby dodecahedron on Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:29 pm

OK updated to B7T9 and here are the results.

3 pics, each of CD test data discs, everything burned at 8x.
the top snapshot in each pic is B7P9, the bottom is B7T9.

it appears that B7T9 is much better for the TY T02, but B7P9 is better for my Prodisc-made-Verbatiom MCC003. :o :x

so now what? reflash the drive every time i take media from a different spindle ??? :evil:
i wish i had the time to start learning more about this and diggin through cdfreaks to find lots of threads & scans etc., see which firmware is better and so forth. alas i don't have the time for this.

also, obviously quite a difference in quality between the two Verbatim spindles i got.
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TDK.png
brand: TDK
type: DVD+R
speed rating: 8x
MID: YUDEN000 T02 (000)
TDK.png (131.71 KiB) Viewed 330 times
VerbatimDLP_straight.PNG
brand: Verbatim DataLifePlus Advanced AZO
type: DVD+R (X47B)
speed rating: 8x
MID: MCC 003
misc media info: made in India by MBIL, straight lipped spindle cakebox
VerbatimDLP_straight.PNG (127.49 KiB) Viewed 331 times
VerbatimDLP_round.PNG
brand: Verbatim DataLifePlus Advanced AZO
type: DVD+R (X47B)
speed rating: 8x
MID: MCC 003
misc media info: made in India by MBIL, round lipped spindle cakebox
VerbatimDLP_round.PNG (127.33 KiB) Viewed 333 times
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Postby Scour on Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:23 pm

Hello!

Now I´m confused...

TY and MCC are the best media and Benq newer FW lowers the writing-quality with MCC? Looks like the Benq-FW-finetuning isn´t so good like some people think :(
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Postby Bhairav on Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:24 am

Dodeca, stick with T9. Those MCC003 results aren't that bad at all, and those Yuden scans look positively schweet with T9.
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Postby dodecahedron on Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:36 am

Bhairav wrote:Dodeca, stick with T9. Those MCC003 results aren't that bad at all, and those Yuden scans look positively schweet with T9.

re the MCC scans aren't bad at all: i really have no experience etc. so i'll take your word for it.
but still the B7P9 are better on the MCC, wouldn't you agree? the first verbatim pic above. the difference is quite marked!

how about B7U9 and B7V9? not as good as B7T9?
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Postby Bhairav on Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:53 am

dodecahedron wrote:
Bhairav wrote:Dodeca, stick with T9. Those MCC003 results aren't that bad at all, and those Yuden scans look positively schweet with T9.

re the MCC scans aren't bad at all: i really have no experience etc. so i'll take your word for it.
but still the B7P9 are better on the MCC, wouldn't you agree? the first verbatim pic above. the difference is quite marked!

how about B7U9 and B7V9? not as good as B7T9?


Yep, the first MCC003 burns are quite different - 5 times the PI errors! Still, if readability is fine, I'd go with T9 (personal opinion :wink: )
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Postby MediumRare on Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:42 pm

Just a bit off topic...
dodecahedron: I noticed that the trace of the writing speed isn't on the scans of the newer data disks (CD Speed test disk) that you created. It is on the older one you posted.

Did you disable this option in the program or is it a bug in the new version?

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Postby Bhairav on Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:53 pm

I didn't see it either, in 4.01. Is it disabled?
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Postby dodecahedron on Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:42 am

MediumRare wrote:Just a bit off topic...
dodecahedron: I noticed that the trace of the writing speed isn't on the scans of the newer data disks (CD Speed test disk) that you created. It is on the older one you posted.

Did you disable this option in the program or is it a bug in the new version?

no.
if you look carefully you'll see that the second Verbatim, B7P9 is also the older CDSpeed but without the writing trace.
i just decided to post the pics without the writing trace since i stated that everything was burned at 8x.
also, if you look you'll see that in that first one the Show Write Speed checkbox is checked and that in all the others it's unchecked.

that first Verbatim & B7P9 was one of the first scans i ever did, and with those first scans i made the mistake of saving just the picture of the scan with the writing trace. now when i do a CDSpeed test disc, i usually save both with and without.
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