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Can this be right? C1 Average=0.00!!

Postby MonsterMan on Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:06 pm

Slapped a (very) old Yamaha 16x10x40 CD-RW drive into a friends equaly old PC, since he didn't have a cd burner in it. I did a test burn on it using Memorex 52x CD-R's (a Ritek). Due to the slowness of his computer, I burned the disc at 8x. This is what the quality scan (using Nero CD Speed) came back as:

General Information
Drive: JLMS XJ-HD166S
Firmware: DS1C
Disc: Audio CD
Selected speed: Maximum
C1 errors
Maximum: 3
Average: 0.00
Total: 13
C2 errors
Maximum: 0
Average: 0.00
Total: 0
Jitter: n/a
Scanning statistics
Number of samples: 12468
Average scanning interval: 0.21 sec
Glitches removed: 0

Now granted it was only about 42 minutes long, but still: C1 Average=0.00

If that's accurate (and I know the results from a DVD-ROM aren't 100% accurate), then I may just steal this drive and use it for archiving my important stuff!

Wonder what it could do with TY's...

Edit: Orginaly posted that the disc was a CMC, since it was a Memorex. However, it's a Ritek - the first Memorex's I've seen that were Ritek. Guess I should start buying Memorex again, since Maxell's CD-Rs aren't Riteks anymore....
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Postby CowboySlim on Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:27 pm

My daughter has my Yamaha 3200 something CD-RW in her PC now. Those Yamahas were great burners. Second only to Plextor, and not by much, if at all.

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Postby dodecahedron on Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:49 pm

does that drive even report C2 errors?
'cause if not, it will say 0 errors! :D
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Postby Bhairav on Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:04 am

Use a Lite-On CDRW drive for scanning for C1/C2 errors. That 166S DVDROM will not give you accurate results.
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Postby RJW on Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:50 am

The yamaha isn't supported by the software when it comes to error measurements that's while you get 0 back.
I don't know if the Yamaha can actually read C1. C2 it can however it does it in a way no programm supports of today at least that was what I heard years ago when the drive was released.

Cheapest way to get a drive for testing will probally be picking up a Lite On.
Like the people here allready suggested.
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Postby MonsterMan on Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:05 pm

That scan was done on the 166 DVD drive; it's the only thing I have to scan with at the moment. Still waiting for my BenQ 1620...
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Postby MediumRare on Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:23 pm

Like Bhairav said, LiteOn DVD drives are not useful for scanning CDs. They report C1/C2 in a different way from a CD burner (Karr Wang said "cooked" as opposed to "raw").

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