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Cdfreaks previews the Plextor 760

Postby Scour on Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:33 pm

http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/261

Not very impressed, look at the end of every 18x-written-media :(
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:22 pm

Looks like they confused Maxell 16x DVD-Rs with Maxell 16x DVD+Rs. Also, if their Verbatim 8x DVD+RDL was scratched... why did they use it? :o (it's NOT hard for reviewers to get this media, especially in the US or Europe!!).

I think the speed is really lame. 18x recording is no faster then 16x on an LG drive. 10x recording is maybe a minute faster then 8x on a P-CAV drive.
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Postby [buck] on Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:47 pm

Burn quality looks pretty poor. 18X burning/10X DL burning nothing more than a useless marketing gimmick IMO. I guess since all drives have pretty much the same specs, Plextor has to justify their insane price somehow. :roll:
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Postby MonsterMan on Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:57 am

Yeah, speed wise, I'll stick to the 4167. Much better quality*, too.

Too bad it can't rip at 18x...that might be useful.

After the huge let-down that was the PX-716 (great ripper, so-so burner), I'll be avoiding Plextor for awhile. As long as I can get 2-3 4167's or DW1655s for the price on one Plextor, and the cheaper drives burn better/faster, why bother?

*=Although not nearly as bad as I expected, the PIF seems way high. And lets see 'em do an 18x write like LG does a 16x...that'll show some improvement!
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Postby hoxlund on Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:08 am

i love my 716 for burning, its horrible as reader

my pioneer 108 blows my 716 away for reading
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Postby MonsterMan on Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:19 am

Really? My does fine with TY media and that's about it. It kicks major butt as a ripper, though (with speedread enabled)...It'll rip faster than my old Lite-On DVD-ROM, Lite-On Combo, Samsung DVD burner, or rip-lock-removed NEC 3540.

And does great with badly damaged discs my other drives can't even begin to read.

I am looking to replace my 3540 (which I only use for ripping, it's one heck of a lousy burner). One little scratch and bam, down to 2x. I'll look into a 108 (if I can FIND one, that is)...

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Re: Cdfreaks previews the Plextor 760

Postby Gen-An on Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:30 am

Scour wrote:http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/261

Not very impressed, look at the end of every 18x-written-media :(


Uh, I don't see what the problem is. PIE/PIF levels are WELL within spec on all of the 18x burns, aside from some singluar PIF spikes which probably will not affect playback performance. Looks good to me. For more results, check here:
http://dvd-r.jpn.org/PX-760A/18x.html
http://dvd-r.jpn.org/PX-760A/18xP.html
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Re: Cdfreaks previews the Plextor 760

Postby Scour on Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:08 pm

Gen-An wrote:
Uh, I don't see what the problem is. PIE/PIF levels are WELL within spec on all of the 18x burns, aside from some singluar PIF spikes which probably will not affect playback performance. Looks good to me


But when u look at the end of every 18x-burned-media, u see PIF-clusters, not nice. And LG with Renesas are a bit faster with 16x.

My point is, I don´t thrust a Liteon-drive, these drives show less PI/PIF than all other scanners. And Cdfreaks only test high-quality-SL-media, Plextor do mostly well with it, but have problem with many other media
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Re: Cdfreaks previews the Plextor 760

Postby [buck] on Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:46 pm

Scour wrote:
Gen-An wrote:
Uh, I don't see what the problem is. PIE/PIF levels are WELL within spec on all of the 18x burns, aside from some singluar PIF spikes which probably will not affect playback performance. Looks good to me


But when u look at the end of every 18x-burned-media, u see PIF-clusters, not nice. And LG with Renesas are a bit faster with 16x.

My point is, I don´t thrust a Liteon-drive, these drives show less PI/PIF than all other scanners. And Cdfreaks only test high-quality-SL-media, Plextor do mostly well with it, but have problem with many other media


I totally agree with you Scour. I'm sure that that LiteON produced much rosier results than a more realistic scanner would. There really is no reason to buy this drive when a LG will burn even faster at 16X with better quality. I suspect even a BenQ with WOPC off could challenge this Plextor.
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Postby RJW on Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:58 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:Looks like they confused Maxell 16x DVD-Rs with Maxell 16x DVD+Rs. Also, if their Verbatim 8x DVD+RDL was scratched... why did they use it? :o (it's NOT hard for reviewers to get this media, especially in the US or Europe!!).

Easy to get it depends if you want to use real disc's and not free samples then it might be hard to get 8x DVD+RDL if you don't want to deal with online stores.
I can accept that they used the disc if they didn't overpresented it again. (why on specific space why not just put the data in the forum ??? )
I know this way you generate more hype.
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Postby Ian on Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:56 pm

RJW wrote:I know this way you generate more hype.


Yes, its all about the benjamins. :roll:
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Re: Cdfreaks previews the Plextor 760

Postby Gen-An on Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:14 pm

Scour wrote:
Gen-An wrote:
Uh, I don't see what the problem is. PIE/PIF levels are WELL within spec on all of the 18x burns, aside from some singluar PIF spikes which probably will not affect playback performance. Looks good to me


But when u look at the end of every 18x-burned-media, u see PIF-clusters, not nice. And LG with Renesas are a bit faster with 16x.

My point is, I don´t thrust a Liteon-drive, these drives show less PI/PIF than all other scanners. And Cdfreaks only test high-quality-SL-media, Plextor do mostly well with it, but have problem with many other media


Did you look at the other links I posted? The tweaked Autostrategy helps out quite a bit even with lower quality media. ProdiscR04@16x on the 760 is pretty good so it's not like the Plextor can only burn Japanese media well.
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Re: Cdfreaks previews the Plextor 760

Postby Scour on Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:19 pm

Gen-An wrote:Did you look at the other links I posted? The tweaked Autostrategy helps out quite a bit even with lower quality media. ProdiscR04@16x on the 760 is pretty good so it's not like the Plextor can only burn Japanese media well.


IMHO Prodisc R04 is not a lower quality media. There are a few writers that write good quaity on those media.

Infosmart and TY/MCC-Fakes are low-quality
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Re: Cdfreaks previews the Plextor 760

Postby Gen-An on Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:57 pm

Scour wrote:
Gen-An wrote:Did you look at the other links I posted? The tweaked Autostrategy helps out quite a bit even with lower quality media. ProdiscR04@16x on the 760 is pretty good so it's not like the Plextor can only burn Japanese media well.


IMHO Prodisc R04 is not a lower quality media. There are a few writers that write good quaity on those media.

Infosmart and TY/MCC-Fakes are low-quality


Call me heartless, but I couldn't care less if a burner does poorly on such media as Infosmart...
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Re: Cdfreaks previews the Plextor 760

Postby Scour on Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:19 pm

Gen-An wrote:
Call me heartless, but I couldn't care less if a burner does poorly on such media as Infosmart...


I never use those media again, but with that every Manufacturer can show, what his AS can do ;)
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Postby Scour on Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:52 pm

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Postby Ian on Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:13 pm

Ooh yay.. another preview. :roll:
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Postby Gen-An on Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:15 pm

Ian wrote:Ooh yay.. another preview. :roll:


That's not a preview, it's a full review.
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Postby Scour on Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:28 pm

Gen-An wrote:
Ian wrote:Ooh yay.. another preview. :roll:


That's not a preview, it's a full review.


Yep, corrected :)
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Postby frank1 on Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:36 am

In the review of this PX-760A published by CDRinfo, on this page:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews ... &PageId=16
I noticed that the burn of Yuden000-T03 @18x P-CAV was bad towards the end !

Plextor 16X DVD+R @ 18x
MID code: Yuden000-T03

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Postby Scour on Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:22 am

frank1 wrote:Now CDRinfo has published a 26 pages review of this PX-760A:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews ... leId=16587


Already posted by me ;)
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Postby RJW on Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:35 am

frank1 wrote:In the review of this PX-760A published by CDRinfo, on this page:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews ... &PageId=16
I noticed that the burn of Yuden000-T03 @18x P-CAV was bad towards the end !


Not suprising C't allready had problems with the PX-755 and that was still at 16x.
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