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Has anyone tried the new Fujifilm colored cdrs?

Postby Robojack on Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:25 am

Hi, I've seen recently on shelves at Staples spindles of Fujifilm 'colored' CDs, with different colored labels. Does anyone know if they're also TY-manufactured? Has anyone purchased these before?
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Postby TheWizard on Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:28 pm

I can't find the thread about this, but if memory serves, yes, the colored Fujifilm discs are made by TY.
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Postby TheWizard on Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:31 pm

motocoke wrote:But I'm beginning to spot the same Ritek spindle rounded topped cases for Imation discs too. I wonder if they are Riteks. I haven't hear of Ritek making discs for Imation.


Where have you seen these? I should check them out.
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Postby rdgrimes on Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:39 pm

can't find the thread about this, but if memory serves, yes, the colored Fujifilm discs are made by TY.


You might want to look at the thread here:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php ... adid=65151
As near as I can tell from looking at the defects in the burned side of the disc, it appears to be a problem with a warped stamper or uneven dye layer. YMMV, but a number of people have reported problems with this media.
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Re: Has anyone tried the new Fujifilm colored cdrs?

Postby CDRecorder on Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:21 pm

Robojack wrote:Hi, I've seen recently on shelves at Staples spindles of Fujifilm 'colored' CDs, with different colored labels. Does anyone know if they're also TY-manufactured? Has anyone purchased these before?


I bought some of these last year, and they were made by TY. They were OK, but the results weren't as good as other results I've seen for TY media.

BTW, what does YMMV mean? I haven't come across that one before.
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Postby rdgrimes on Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:40 pm

YMMV = "Your Mileage May Vary"
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Postby BuddhaTB on Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:57 pm

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Postby CDRecorder on Sat Jun 07, 2003 2:07 am

rdgrimes wrote:YMMV = "Your Mileage May Vary"


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Sony CDRs

Postby jjones on Sat Jun 14, 2003 9:10 pm

Anyone knows who makes Sony CDR's? Does Sony still make their own CDRs? I know they used to a while ago.
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Postby David on Sat Jun 14, 2003 9:26 pm

It apears that Fuji dose not use TY disc's for their blank audio cd's.
In store I have seen gray spindl base Fuji cd's with a lable made in Taiwan.
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Postby rdgrimes on Sat Jun 14, 2003 10:22 pm

A number of Fuji discs are made in Taiwan, usually the ones packaged in slim-cases.
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Postby David on Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:28 pm

This was the first time I have seen Fuji media that was not made in Japan spindls and cases here in the states.
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Re: how do you tell which media you have?

Postby jeffnc on Sat Oct 11, 2003 11:52 pm

aliaz wrote:I hear of Ritek, CMC, TY, etc...but how do I tell one from the other when purchasing? I'm confused :o
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I've just gone through the archive of these posts, and I have one question for you guys. Why don't you simply by Taiyo Yuden CDs rather than go through all these gyrations? They might not be available in retail stores here in the US, but certainly you could mail order them.
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Postby cfitz on Sun Oct 12, 2003 12:15 am

Because they are typically much more expensive when ordered online. Compare the typical cost of $0.28 to $0.35 per disc when ordered online to the $0.06 to $0.12 per disc when bought on sale at retail outlets.

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Postby slipkid on Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:49 pm

cfitz wrote:Because they are typically much more expensive when ordered online. Compare the typical cost of $0.28 to $0.35 per disc when ordered online to the $0.06 to $0.12 per disc when bought on sale at retail outlets.


another reason is that the generic silver t-y's that go for about 34-40 cents each (the cheapest generic t-y's i can find that is) have IMO horrible shiny silver tops, which not only are fingerprint magnets (yech) but seem to not offer much protection against scuffing or scratching, unlike say the fuji branded t-y media

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Postby slipkid on Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:07 pm

also, regarding the comments on trying to discover a manufacturer by reading the ATIP, that is unreliable & should not be relied upon for 100%

don't trust the results from an ATIP reader unless you have some other evidence to go on

more info:

http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html#S2-38
http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html#S2-33


here's a quote from an advanced cdr group regarding ATIP readers that i've kept archived....

>>>>>>
"There are two basic problems here - though the idea
is sound. First, the identification on the disc is not
definitive. What is read is at best the name written
to the master from which the stamper was made which
was then used to create the blanks. I trust that some
major manufacturers control the use of those masters
and stampers to ensure that their name does not
show up where it shouldn't, but that's not true for
all hardware or all names. So you may well read a name
there which signifies nothing.

Second, the translation from what's written into the
ATIP into the brand name is now encoded - and there's
a fee for retrieving it. That's why the programmer of
CD-R Identifier has dropped the product (though it can
still be retrieved from his site without support). Old
stampers will still translate, but that won't hold
much longer.

All you can count on is that if two discs have
*different* values in the ATIP, they were not made
with the same stamper and are likely to perform
differently. If two agree, there's a chance that
they'll match, but no more than that."
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RE: CDs' identification

Postby jaym on Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:20 pm

How about this SmartBurn utility from Lite-on ? The (new) URL is:

http://www.liteonit.com.tw/ODD/English/ ... tility.asp
Would it help to identify the manufacturer correctly?

Incidentally, I have had excellent results with Moser-Baer (India) CDs

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Postby MediumRare on Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:28 pm

Welcome to the forum!

Keep the previous post in mind- it's almost a year old, but as valid as ever. SmartBurn is as reliable as the ATIP information on your disc. It seems to have an up-to-date list of manufacturers for decoding the ATIP codes.

There are a lot of other readily available alternatives for identifying the media type, such as Nero (Media info, then "shift refresh"), the Nero Infotool or CD Speed and many more.

jaym wrote:Incidentally, I have had excellent results with Moser-Baer (India) CDs

You may want to read and/or contribute to the Media comaptibility thread.

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