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Postby aviationwiz on Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:58 pm

What happened to the Official KProbe Thread?
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:24 pm

The CD Doctor thread is gone too.....
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Postby sendra0285 on Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:44 am

What happened?
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Postby Bhairav on Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:49 am

I'm guessing Lite-On are cracking down on KProbe. CDFreaks have removed their KProbe thread too. I only hope Karr isn't in any trouble because of this.
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Postby MikeTR on Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:47 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:The CD Doctor thread is gone too.....


CD Doctor thread is still here (just not sticky anymore):
http://cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=8095&highlight=cddoctor
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Postby MikeTR on Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:54 am

bhairavp wrote:I only hope Karr isn't in any trouble because of this.


So do I, it would be unbelievable if he was in trouble with Lite-On because of this.
Don't they see that Kprobe only helped to enhance the position of their drives? How out of touch can you get? :-?
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Postby Ian on Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:25 am

I don't know all of the details, only that Karr asked that they be removed.

Personally, I think KProbe and Smartburn were great utilities. Lite-On would be smart to promote them. Of course, not everyone sees it that way.
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Postby MediumRare on Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:35 am

Karr's website has been gone for over a week, so it looks like things are escalating even further.

I (too) think it's a crying shame that these useful tools and now even the disussion about them is being suppressed. For me (at least) they are a major reason to buy a LiteOn drive and I've made numerous such recommendations to my friends and colleagues.

We can only hope that things will normalize.

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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:12 am

Well, no more liteONs for me! They've taken away the best reason to buy one, and the Optorite drive appears to be a perfect alternative for my needs. I have been a big supporter of LiteON ever since my Yamaha 4416 died on me a few years back, but if they are going to treat their customers and employee's like this, then I'm taking my business elsewhere! :evil:
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Postby Ian on Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:21 am

You guys also need to realize that Karr also provided some pretty controversial tools, like LTNFlash. Yeah, it was a great way to update firmware initially, but when you start adding ways to disable region checking... you're asking for trouble.

Of course, you also have the rumors about the jealous A-holes that turned Karr in. It blows my mind why someone would do that, just to get in good with Lite-On.
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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Oct 15, 2003 11:12 am

Ian wrote:Personally, I think KProbe and Smartburn were great utilities. Lite-On would be smart to promote them.
i'm deliberating right now between a Lite-On and a Toshiba DVD-ROM drive. the only reason i'm leaning towards the Lite-On is KProbe.

Ian wrote:You guys also need to realize that Karr also provided some pretty controversial tools, like LTNFlash. Yeah, it was a great way to update firmware initially, but when you start adding ways to disable region checking... you're asking for trouble.
it's a shame that some sort of arrangement wasn't (couldn't be?) reached, where the non-controversial utilities would still be available to us, just stop the "problematic" ones (or eliminate the "problematic" portions of the programs).
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Postby aviationwiz on Wed Oct 15, 2003 11:54 am

Well spoken dolphinius, only reason to own Lite-On is for Kprobe. I hope they (Lite-On) realized what they have done to some heavy-Lite-On customers.
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Postby Ian on Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:14 pm

Well, I own Lite-On drives because they're affordable and perform well. KProbe is just an extra bonus.
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Postby CDRecorder on Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:10 pm

Like Ian, I own the Lite-On drives because they are good and affordable. However, I think it would be great if Lite-On could release these tools. Even if LtnFlash retained only the abilities to flash and backup firmware, it would still (in my opinion) be the best flashing tool for Lite-On drives.
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Postby MediumRare on Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:34 pm

Ian wrote:Well, I own Lite-On drives because they're affordable and perform well. KProbe is just an extra bonus.

When I bought by LTR48246S last Nov., I did so mainly because of information from this site. It was primarily "just a cheap drive" which performed well. Hadn't heard much about LiteOn prior to lurking around here.

It's been a good drive, but so are others- LG is no more expensive. What really opened my eyes, though, was the possibility to do error scans with CD Doctor and (above all) KProbe. Since them I scan every disc I burn. I won't buy another drive without such diagnostic tools. It's not "just an extra bonus" anymore.

At present this means LiteOn (because I don't need the other gadgets that Plextor offers and the results are presented better than with PlexTools). But if other companies wake up and offer such diagnostic tools, LiteOn has lost a unique trait that makes it very/more desirable.

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Postby aviationwiz on Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:50 pm

I wouldn't even keep my LTD-163D around if it weren't for error scanning. I'd just get one of those cool Slot Loading Pionner Drives.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:43 pm

those "cool slot loading pioneer drives" aren't that great, I gave mine away for free I got so sick of it not reading burned DVDs very well. I actually replaced it with an AFREEY DVD-ROM and felt it was a good thing... that has to tell you something! :evil:
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