Home News Reviews Forums Shop


Pioneer Announces The DVR-A09XL

DVD-R/W, DVD+R/RW, DVD-RAM

Pioneer Announces The DVR-A09XL

Postby Ian on Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:43 pm

Taken from here:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/p ... 25,00.html

The DVR-A09XL high speed DVD burner introduced today by Pioneer enables computer users to record data, photos and video onto DVD-R, DVD-RW, +R and +RW discs with ease. It also works with dual layer discs, increasing the capacity of a disc from 4.7 to 8.5 gigabytes for even more storage space.

The DVR-A09XL offers many technologies unique to Pioneer, including Quiet Drive for minimal operating noise; Liquid Crystal Control for optimum recording quality; Precision Recording to minimize the effects of long term deterioration of re-recordable discs due to repeated writing; and an Ultra Dynamic Resonance Absorber to reduce vibrations during high-speed recording and playback of discs. The DVR-A09XL comes packaged with high quality software that enables the user to edit home movies, burn music, create photo slideshows and back up data with ease. The DVR-A09XL will begin shipping this month.


Come on Pioneer.. where are the drive's specs?
"Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt." - Steve Jobs
User avatar
Ian
Grand Poobah
 
Posts: 14882
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2001 2:34 pm
Location: Madison, WI

Postby Sing1gniS on Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:48 pm

Specs unknown, should I wait for the Pioneer or the new LiteOn? This will be my first DVD burner so I want to start off on the right foot. I have a LiteOn CD burner and have had 0 problems with it. I've just read were the Pioneer may be a little better as far as quality is concerned. Any thoughts?
User avatar
Sing1gniS
Buffer Underrun
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2002 12:48 am

Postby Justin42 on Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:54 pm

Pioneers tend to be fairly unequaled in high quality -R writing. Otherwise, they're just a very well built drive. I.e., their +R writing is ok but nothing spectacular. (I have an A07XL and love it)

LiteOns are very good drives, and in some ways better (i.e., PI/PO scanning although the Pioneers are starting to be good for that too). However, I personally think of LiteOns as "good for the price, but there's better" sort of drives.

I'd say wait for the specs, and maybe reviews.

Why, oh why, won't Pioneer make one of their drives burn DVD-RAM? I'd definitely buy 1, and maybe 2, immediately. #-o I hate that I'm waiting for an LG-4163 in black to become available....
Justin42
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 723
Joined: Sat Jun 29, 2002 10:30 pm

Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:56 pm

Under *NO* circumstances would I recommend a LiteOn DVD Burner. Their writing quality is so below average, and they aren't any cheaper then BenQ drives, which are MUCH better made, and can do better quality testing then them as well (with more options).
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Postby Sing1gniS on Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:08 pm

Ok, so no LiteOn. What about the new NEC drive? It looks like a decent burner.
User avatar
Sing1gniS
Buffer Underrun
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2002 12:48 am

Postby hoxlund on Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:19 pm

I'll defently upgrade to this new pioneer drive
Fractal Design Define R5 White Window Case
Corsair RM1000 Power Supply
MSI X99A XPower AC USB 3.1 Motherboard
Intel i7-5930K CPU @ 4.8GHz
Corsair H100i GTX 240mm CPU Cooler
Mushkin Blackline 4x8GB DDR4 2400 Memory
Asus 980Ti Strix OC
User avatar
hoxlund
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 3706
Joined: Mon May 27, 2002 12:55 am
Location: RAF Lakenheath / Suffolk United Kingdom

Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:20 pm

The NEC 3500a isn't bad, I use it myself sometimes on occasion.

This is getting off topic though (partially my fault)

It's nice to see the Pioneer DVR-109 finally announced (or the XL version at least). Pretty close to when I originally said it would happen too :wink:
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Postby Scour on Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:24 pm

Sing1gniS wrote:Ok, so no LiteOn. What about the new NEC drive? It looks like a decent burner.


In the past the NEC have not a good FW-support, without Herrie´s FW´s many users would kick their NEC in the trash.

And an other point is, that NEC-drives are very bad readers,. If you have a good DVD-reader and if you use DVD+R you can go with a NEC.

If you prefer DVD-R then go with Pioneer or LG. Both drives are better readers than the NEC, too.
Benq DW 1640, LG GH-20N, Pioneer BDR-208
Crucial M4, Sandisk SSD, Plextor M5S, Sandisk Ultra Plus, OCZ Petrol 256GB

cu
Scour
Scour
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 1909
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2001 8:00 pm
Location: Germany

Postby tazdevl on Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:01 pm

If the specs are as good or better than the 716, after the whole hardware debacle, I'm picking this drive up.
RIG:
P4 2.6C, Thermalright SP94/Panaflo 92MM M1A, IC7 Max3, Swifty MCX159, 1GB Geil PC4000 Ultra Plat, Radeon 8500, Audigy 2, 2X WD Raptor RAID 0, WD 250GB SE, Plex 708A, 166SDVD, LianLi PC75, XP Pro.
User avatar
tazdevl
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 979
Joined: Tue May 14, 2002 11:03 pm

Postby Gen-An on Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:35 pm

Let's hope Pioneer has wised up to the benefits of CAV and P-CAV burning...
Gen-An
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 310
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:20 pm

Postby CowboySlim on Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:11 pm

I was disappointed in the NEC ND-3500's ability to read. However, I put my Toshiba SD-M1712, a greater reader, back in so I'm OK. The only other possible drawback of the NEC is the lack of bitsetting/booktyping. But once again, I'm OK because all my DVD players are quite recent and can play DVD+Rs and DVD+RWs.

Slim
Who once had a mouse chew into the drywall out in the garage and just plastered the SOB in there for good.
User avatar
CowboySlim
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 1868
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 3:58 pm
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

Postby jpuntel on Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:02 am

Another Pioneer drive, UH! Well here's hoping they get this one right, right form the start.
jpuntel
CD-RW Thug
 
Posts: 98
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:05 pm

Postby RJW on Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:37 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:The NEC 3500a isn't bad, I use it myself sometimes on occasion.


Hmm I think you can say that for a lot of drives. :D
RJW
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 1379
Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2001 8:00 pm
Location: The netherlands

Postby Noua on Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:35 am

I found some specs:

Write speeds
DVD±R 16x
DVD+R DL 6x
DVD-RW 6x
DVD+RW 4x
CD-R 40x
CD-RW 24x

Later the drive will be upgradable via firmware to:

DVD±R DL 6x
DVD-RW 6x
DVD+RW 8x

If you go here you'll se the full article
"We don't want to to put mankind on the moon but to bring mankind back to earth..."
Noua
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 373
Joined: Fri May 16, 2003 8:34 am
Location: Portugal

Postby hoxlund on Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:44 am

jpuntel wrote:Another Pioneer drive, UH! Well here's hoping they get this one right, right form the start.


whats that supposed to mean, your quote fits certain plextor drives better then any pioneer thats ever been released
Fractal Design Define R5 White Window Case
Corsair RM1000 Power Supply
MSI X99A XPower AC USB 3.1 Motherboard
Intel i7-5930K CPU @ 4.8GHz
Corsair H100i GTX 240mm CPU Cooler
Mushkin Blackline 4x8GB DDR4 2400 Memory
Asus 980Ti Strix OC
User avatar
hoxlund
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 3706
Joined: Mon May 27, 2002 12:55 am
Location: RAF Lakenheath / Suffolk United Kingdom

Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:47 am

RJW wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:The NEC 3500a isn't bad, I use it myself sometimes on occasion.


Hmm I think you can say that for a lot of drives. :D


:wink:
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Postby Ian on Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:19 pm

CD Freaks has some rumored specs for the A09..

DVD+R DL 6x
DVD+R 16x
DVD+RW 8x
DVD-R DL 6x
DVD-R 16x
DVD-RW 6x
CD-R 40x
CD-RW 24x

The thought is that the Buffalo DVM-RDM16FB is based on the DVR-A09XL. If it is, Pioneer has given the drive a makeover.

Image

http://buffalo.melcoinc.co.jp/products/ ... 072_2.html
"Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt." - Steve Jobs
User avatar
Ian
Grand Poobah
 
Posts: 14882
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2001 2:34 pm
Location: Madison, WI

Postby Noua on Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:19 pm

Ian, are those the specs that will come out with the drive or some of them will be added via firmware upgrade? Are there any roumers about sepcs being upgraded via firmware? I found a site that said they would and that's why i ask... #-o
"We don't want to to put mankind on the moon but to bring mankind back to earth..."
Noua
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 373
Joined: Fri May 16, 2003 8:34 am
Location: Portugal

Postby Ian on Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:42 pm

Noua wrote:Ian, are those the specs that will come out with the drive or some of them will be added via firmware upgrade? Are there any roumers about sepcs being upgraded via firmware? I found a site that said they would and that's why i ask... #-o


According to PC Watch, the 8x DVD+RW and 6x DVD-R DL will be added via firmware:

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/ ... ffalo2.htm
"Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt." - Steve Jobs
User avatar
Ian
Grand Poobah
 
Posts: 14882
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2001 2:34 pm
Location: Madison, WI

Postby Noua on Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:47 pm

"We don't want to to put mankind on the moon but to bring mankind back to earth..."
Noua
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 373
Joined: Fri May 16, 2003 8:34 am
Location: Portugal

Postby Scour on Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:07 pm

Hello!

The specs are ok, but not a hammer. I wonder why Pioneer have so low CD-R-speeds.

The Buffalo looks like a little different to other Pioneer-drives, it have no airflow-holes (don´t know the neglish word for it)
Benq DW 1640, LG GH-20N, Pioneer BDR-208
Crucial M4, Sandisk SSD, Plextor M5S, Sandisk Ultra Plus, OCZ Petrol 256GB

cu
Scour
Scour
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 1909
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2001 8:00 pm
Location: Germany

Postby jpuntel on Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:41 pm

Hoxlund said

whats that supposed to mean, your quote fits certain plextor drives better then any pioneer thats ever been released.



I would agree that Plextor is the biggest disappointment, especially for the extra money they want. Pioneer is catching up though, as a matter of fact, all the big names are guilty of rushing they're semi-tested products to market. THe whole practice is pissing me off more and more each day.
First, gaming software, then Video cards, Intel processors, and now with ever increasing frequency, DVD burners. Every time you flash your drive you risk ending up with a doorstop, and that just sucks. :cry:
jpuntel
CD-RW Thug
 
Posts: 98
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:05 pm

Postby hoxlund on Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:30 am

do you realize how long this drive has been in production?

and of the couple dozen optical drives ive owned ive never flashed one wrong to where i couldn't get it back and reflash it
Fractal Design Define R5 White Window Case
Corsair RM1000 Power Supply
MSI X99A XPower AC USB 3.1 Motherboard
Intel i7-5930K CPU @ 4.8GHz
Corsair H100i GTX 240mm CPU Cooler
Mushkin Blackline 4x8GB DDR4 2400 Memory
Asus 980Ti Strix OC
User avatar
hoxlund
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 3706
Joined: Mon May 27, 2002 12:55 am
Location: RAF Lakenheath / Suffolk United Kingdom

Postby hydrogen on Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:54 am

Does anyone know when it will show up in store in the US and how much it will cost? I know it says it's going to ship this month, but I'm not sure how long it takes for them to show up in stores after they are shipped.

Thank you :)
hydrogen
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 434
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:38 am

Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:42 am

hydrogen wrote:Does anyone know when it will show up in store in the US and how much it will cost? I know it says it's going to ship this month, but I'm not sure how long it takes for them to show up in stores after they are shipped.

Thank you :)


Expect it in Japan any day now, expect it in USA about 1 month from then. Expect it in Canada about 2-3 weeks after it shows up in the U.S.

FYI: Shipping via boat takes ~1 month from asia to North America.
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Next

Return to DVD Writers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

All Content is Copyright (c) 2001-2017 CDRLabs Inc.