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by **thegdog** on Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:32 pm

FYI -

NEC has released a utility for the ND-2510A drives which allows the user to change the booktype of DVD+R DL media to DVD-ROM. So now you don't need to use a hacked firmware.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=71653

Downside, it only does bitsetting on DVD+R DL media, not DVD+R or DVD+RW.

NicW is also adding this functionality into DVDinfoPro.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=71634

by **axelrod** on Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:04 pm

thats interesting regarding the 2510 and bitsetting...

now that I'm sitting on this -r media, I'm wondering if I should xchange it out for the +r version (verbatim datalifes all)

-ax

by **speedlaser** on Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:56 pm

I own a plextor 708A, 1 Liteon 851 external and 1 Sony Dru 700A.
I can tell you that this Sony or Liteon version if you prefer it is just a wonderfull piece of hardware. It crawl's everything speedy and fine apart a little problem with DVD-RW, wich i think it dislikite, althouhg it handles them at 4X. It's a bit pricey in the US, here in the € zone it costs about 160. But i tell you these: if you dont care DL, and have lot's of money to spend in verbatim media go for the Plextor 712. After all Plexie is still the King of perfection, and besides that, you get all the Premium series drives enhances with it.

by **axelrod** on Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:30 pm

I have been eying the 712 to see if it goes on sale to a reasonable level, otherwise, I'm considering a few of these other drives.......if the NEC or pioneer have a great sale, I might go that route too. Wish I had a ETA on the Pioneer 16xDL drive....

didn't someone have a problem burning these verbatim dvd-r 4x on the plex-712? what about 8x? their site says it's possible.

-ax

by **pchilson** on Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:23 pm

I'll bet you that tub of verbatims that you don't have anything to burn them with a month from now... :wink:

by **axelrod** on Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:22 pm

that's harsh! but sadly, very possibly true! still it was a good deal...

I think there should be some sort of celebration after I buy this thing, whatever drive it is...

:roll:

by **pchilson** on Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:58 pm

Not trying to be harsh just calling it like I see it.

I think if you are looking to buy now (this generation of drives) you should just go for it.
Otherwise wait a while and a new crop will appear. Problem then is you will have the same questions about them. :wink:

Between the three you are considering you can't be wrong with any of them.
Good luck with your decision.

by **thegdog** on Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:13 am

axelrod wrote:I have been eying the 712 to see if it goes on sale to a reasonable level

What's a reasonable level? It was on sale at Fry's Electronics in CA the other day for $149.95. Not sure if their online counterpart (Outpost.com) had it for the same price. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

Oh and that might have been after $20 MIR.

3x as much as the NEC ND-2500A on sale at Office Max this week, but reasonable in the general scheme of things, I guess. For a Plextor anyway.

axelrod wrote:Wish I had a ETA on the Pioneer 16xDL drive...

Bet the DVD Forum wishes they had an ETA on approving dual layer DVD-R.

by **axelrod** on Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:36 am

I actually checked that Frys "712". It was actually for the Px-708, they messed up calling it 12x, but since they didn't call it the 712 in the ad, they wouldn't give it up for that price....at least, thats what they said on the phone..

Is that mad dog drive at officemax, can you flash upgrade that to the 2510, did we prove whether or not that works yet?

-ax

by **MadBurner** on Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:06 am

What exactly is your price point axelrod? Both the Pioneer DVR-A07XL and the NEC ND-2510A are $79.99 online.

Just curious.

MB

by **thegdog** on Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:29 pm

axelrod wrote:I actually checked that Frys "712". It was actually for the Px-708, they messed up calling it 12x, but since they didn't call it the 712 in the ad, they wouldn't give it up for that price....at least, thats what they said on the phone..

Wow, you found someone who spoke English at Fry's? Impressive.

Although that's odd since I've seen the Plextor 708A drive for less than that. I did check the Fry's number on Outpost though, and it does appear to be the 708 drive:
http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4085312

axelrod wrote:Is that mad dog drive at officemax, can you flash upgrade that to the 2510, did we prove whether or not that works yet?

Well, I haven't seen a post from someone who said it didn't work for them yet. Thus far, seems like everyone who has tried DL media on their ND-2500A with Herrie's 1.07 V2 Beta 5 firmware (who's posted anyway) has been successful.

by **axelrod** on Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:58 am

can anyone say Pioneer A08? Maybe my waiting was a good thing....this drive sounds nice, and I like how Pioneer keeps up with their firmware upgrades...

thanks!

-ax

by **pchilson** on Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:13 am

Pioneer A08. You have some news?

by **cfitz** on Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:14 am

pchilson wrote:Pioneer A08. You have some news?

Ian's announcement is tacked right at the top of this forum:

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=17045

You need to be more observant...

cfitz

by **pchilson** on Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:16 am

cfitz wrote:
pchilson wrote:Pioneer A08. You have some news?

Ian's announcement is tacked right at the top of this forum:

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=17045

You need to be more observant...

cfitz

Uh yeah, just saw it. In the AM I come in from the email that the board spits out... #-o

by **axelrod** on Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:10 am

Now that I'm waiting for the A08 to come out, I'm really bummed that these Verbatim DVD-R's don't work on my Phillips Dell 2x Dvd Burner. I swear they said it was DVD+-R/W, but apparently it's only +R. Oh well...what can you do?

This thread lives on...

-ax

by **Kennyshin** on Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:48 am

MadBurner wrote:What exactly is your price point axelrod? Both the Pioneer DVR-A07XL and the NEC ND-2510A are $79.99 online.

Just curious.

MB

You've got the best of various types.

LG GDR-8162B 16X DVD-ROM
LG GSA-4120B 5X DVD-RAM/DL
NEC ND-2500A 8X DVD±RW
NEC ND-6100A 8X DVD+RW/DL
Pioneer DVR-A07XLB 8X DVD±RW
Plextor PX-712A 12X DVD±RW
Panasonic DVD-S47S Home DVD Player
Panasonic DMR-E85H Home DVD-RAM/-R/HDD Recorder

ND-6100A and Panasonic DVD-RAM/HDD recorders look especially attractive, but are not available where I am.

by **pchilson** on Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:46 pm

Hey axelrod, did you ever buy a burner?
That Benq 1600 in the Pacific Digital box looks kinda tempting...

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