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Postby [buck] on Mon May 01, 2006 7:42 pm

swinokur wrote:Hi there,

I have been using TYG03 media purchased from supermediastore, on a DW1640 (BSOB) drive for a while now. I've noticed that the last couple birthday cakes of media have had more coasters show up during nero 6's verification routine than before. I'm not sure if this is just indicitave of a single bad batch of media, or general "badness" in the 16x media. I thought that I would mention it though.

The media is the silver lauquer type, (non printable) - the media code is:


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00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 84 0D 11 .l...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 90 00 03 54 59 47 30 33 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG03......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 A8 82 00 20 00 02 00 06 09 09 15 ........ .......


Are these value line, or premium line?
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Postby swinokur on Mon May 01, 2006 7:47 pm

Hi buck,

I'm not sure how to answer if they're value line or premium line - this is the link i've been ordering from:

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yu ... inish.html
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Postby [buck] on Mon May 01, 2006 7:48 pm

swinokur wrote:Hi buck,

I'm not sure how to answer if they're value line or premium line - this is the link i've been ordering from:

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yu ... inish.html


Ok, those are premium. Value line is the media sold as tapewrapped 4X. I think Dolph will have something to say about this..
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Postby swinokur on Mon May 01, 2006 7:55 pm

hmm... since this seems to be a 'thing' - i've grabbed the two coasters from this afternoon out of the wastebasket, in case dolph is interested in having them for further --- analysis. :)

hub serial numbers:
7G523A307138GH
7G523A307142GH
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue May 02, 2006 12:09 am

I'm not surprised unfortunately. I have had pretty bad results from Taiyo Yuden's 16x media. The only GOOD results I've seen on it are with BenQ drives using Soldiburn. I've gotten "ok" results out of Pioneer and Plextor drives, but the variable quality of TYG03 in general tends to make it hard to predict. YUDEN000T03 seems to be even worse.

I'm not sure if YUDEN000T03's problem is caused by lack of support from drive manufacturers, or flaws in the media itself. TYG03's problems seem to be more on the physical flaws end of things, and less on the drive support though.
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Postby swinokur on Tue May 02, 2006 1:50 pm

so should I give up on TYG03 and go back to the 8X?

i've used qsuite and turned solidburn "on" for known media types, but I read somewhere that it takes a few burns before the drive develops a better write strategy?

dolphinius_rex wrote:I'm not surprised unfortunately. I have had pretty bad results from Taiyo Yuden's 16x media. The only GOOD results I've seen on it are with BenQ drives using Soldiburn. I've gotten "ok" results out of Pioneer and Plextor drives, but the variable quality of TYG03 in general tends to make it hard to predict. YUDEN000T03 seems to be even worse.

I'm not sure if YUDEN000T03's problem is caused by lack of support from drive manufacturers, or flaws in the media itself. TYG03's problems seem to be more on the physical flaws end of things, and less on the drive support though.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue May 02, 2006 3:18 pm

Personally I recommend going back to the 8x DVD-Rs. They offer much more consistant results. But using SolidBurn you SHOULD get better results with TYG03 then you have been getting, probably even on the first burn or two.
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