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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:44 am

got any links to those programs mate? i will be more than happy to do scnas :)
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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:08 am

ok, I used a program called CDCheck to check both normal 52x burned media I done last night and the 48x overburned one. I used my writer to read the cdr's in these two tests and below are the results.

I will do the same but reading from my dvd rom in a few moments and the tests will be in teh dvdrom read directoy on the below link

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robbiekhan ... p/cdCheck/

seems the error rate for the liteon reading burned discs is very low to non but other readers fail almost right away. But at 48x NON overburned all the readers read them fine. I guess its the media here
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:24 am

Actually, we were talking about scanning your discs with a program like CD Doctor or KProbe. This will check the disc for read errors, not just compare the files.
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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:30 am

oh! - ok!
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:33 am

I'm looking forward to seeing your results. BTW, KProbe only works with Lite-On drives; it won't read the discs back on your DVD-ROM unless it was made by Lite-On.
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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:40 am

could you tell me how to use kprobe!

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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:53 am

Just insert the disc into your LTR-52327S and start KProbe. Then follow these steps:

1. Select Lite-On LTR-52327S from the drop-down list at the top of the KProbe window.

2. Click on the "Write Strategy" tab.

3. Make sure that there is a checkmark in the "Max" checkbox.

4. Click "Start".

You can save images of your scans by clicking on the button that looks like a floppy disk.
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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:54 pm

below are the results

52x 707MB on DATASAFE Datawrite black bottom cdr media (DAO/96)
- KProbe
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Postby rdgrimes on Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:58 pm

Not good! Try burning it at 40x and scan it.
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:03 pm

Rdgrimes is right; if the disc was working properly, there shouldn't be any C2 errors. I also think that I saw some unreadable sectors there, which is definitely not good!

Edit: This is a little off-topic, but where did you get those 8-cm CD-Rs that were in the picture, mrk1283? I've never seen anything like that in a store before!
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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:03 pm

I got them from ADM pc's or something next to OcUK for 35P each!

they hold 40MB


I will burn another CD at 40x

results soon! (kprobe takes a while scanning!)
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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:46 pm

ok guys, here's the results for new tests.

This one is with SMARTBURN enabled which limits writing to 16x on these media, Overburned to 707MB with mixed data (703MB capacity)
- link

This one is at 40x with SMARTBURN off not overburned, 702MB mixed data burned.
- link

is this better?

I have no idea what im supposed to look at for c1/c2 errors etc! but from this I can gather that SMARTBURN does indeed help when overburning or it's the lower writing speed on the media but at 40x NOT overburned the cd is also fine
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Postby rdgrimes on Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:55 pm

Looks like 40x is working just fine, but I'd scan quite a few of them along the way to be sure. If you have CloneCD or Alcohol installed, turn off the "hide media info" option so you can see who made the discs in Kprobe or SmartBurn.
I'm guessing they might be the RiTEK JS black, AKA Memorex black. Some of the older ones had pretty low speed ratings.
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:12 pm

Both of those results are fine; obviously the 16x is better, but the 40x looks fine, too! :D
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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:20 pm

I se eno option for "hide media info" and i have both those software (been using them since they came out :P)

good to know 40x is stable but I dont really mind waiting 5 mins to burn at 16x for a perfect burn though!
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Postby rdgrimes on Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:26 pm

I se eno option for "hide media info"

It's there, in both programs. It prevents other programs from reporting the media ATIP information, like who made it. Best to leave it turned off unless you need it to run a backed-up game or something. Alcohol has it on by default, I'm not sure about CCD. In alcohol, it's under the emulation options.
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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:52 pm

Ahh found it

Disc Type = CDR (A-)
Manufacturer = RiTEK,PNY,MB India,Gigastorage

<< Disc Information >>
Erasable = False
Status of Last Session/Border = Empty Session/Border
Disc Status = Empty Disc
Number of First Track/RZone on Disc = 1
Number of Sessions/Borders(LSB) = 1
First Track/RZone Number in Last Session/Border(LSB) = 1
Last Track/RZone Number in Last Session/Border(LSB) = 1
Disc Identification Valid(DID_V) = False
Disc Bar Code Valid(DBC_V) = False
Unrestricted Use Disc(DRU) = False
Disc Type = Undefined
Disc Identification = 00000000h
Lead-in Start Time of Last Session = 97:16:06(61:10:06h)
Last Possible Start Time for Startof Lead-out = 79:59:73(4F:3B:49h)
Disc Bar Code = 0000000000000000h
Number of OPC Table Entries = 0
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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:54 pm

and here is what liteons SMARTBURN tool reports

This Disc is designed for CD-RW/COMBO Drive Only.
Disc Type, Material = CD-R, Phthalocyanine
ATIP Lead-in = 97m 16s 06f
Norminal Capacity = 702.83MB (79m 59s 73f)
Disc Manufacturer maybe = Memorex Black
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 16X


and for those interested, the mini cdr's i have

This Disc is designed for CD-RW/COMBO Drive Only.
Disc Type, Material = CD-R, Phthalocyanine
ATIP Lead-in = 97m 31s 07f
Norminal Capacity = 37.79MB (04m 20s 00f)
Disc Manufacturer maybe = RiTEK,G
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 8X
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Postby CDRecorder on Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:11 pm

Thanks! I was interested to see who made those discs. I thought those mini CD-Rs looked like Ritek!
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:59 pm

I've used the business card CD-Rs you've got in the pic. They are pretty good. You can't buy business card CD-Rs that will burn faster then 8x though :-?

It's a drive limitation due to the weird shape.
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

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Postby mrk1283 on Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:38 pm

heh yup but 40MB at 8x doesnt really take that long to burn :P
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