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Which Pioneer 111 model writes DVD-RAM natively?

Postby Justin42 on Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:05 pm

I am having trouble finding a straight answer, trying to figure out which version of the Pioneer 111 drives do DVD-RAM (writing!) natively, without having to cross-flash or anything.

Newegg has a black and white "111D", but makes it sound like only the white one writes DVD-RAM; the black kinda hedges a bit. In the past the "D" models did NOT write to DVD-RAM, has that changed? Or flipped? (that the "D" models write DVD-RAM and non-D does not?)

White:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827129002

Black:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827129001

ZipZoomFly does not show any Pioneer 111 versions capable of DVD-RAM writing.

I assume the retail kits (DVR-710? Is that the DVR-111?) don't write DVD-RAM.

I would prefer to not crossflash because DVD-RAM support is fairly important to me and don't like the idea of the drive not officially supporting it in case there ARE any issues with the DVD-RAM capabilities of flashed units...

Thanks for any help..
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Postby KenW on Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:59 pm

Model 111D will NOT burn DVD-RAM media

Model 111 NO D or a11XL WILL burn DVD-RAM media

Also the 111L WILL burn DVD-RAM as well as label flash media
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Postby Justin42 on Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:10 pm

Cool, thanks. I assume the A11XL isn't available in the US, since the recent ones haven't been? :(

At least I know what to look for. :)
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Postby Ian on Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:34 pm

Justin42 wrote:Cool, thanks. I assume the A11XL isn't available in the US, since the recent ones haven't been? :(

At least I know what to look for. :)


If you want a retail drive, look for the DVR-710. It's essentially a DVR-111 in a retail box.
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Postby Gen-An on Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:49 pm

Ian wrote:
Justin42 wrote:Cool, thanks. I assume the A11XL isn't available in the US, since the recent ones haven't been? :(

At least I know what to look for. :)


If you want a retail drive, look for the DVR-710. It's essentially a DVR-111 in a retail box.


I'm glad I got an A09XL when they were available. Stupid Pioneer taking the XL models off the US market because of dumb Dell customers :evil: Oh well, there's always ebay. I've seen some A11XL drives there.
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Postby Ian on Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:26 pm

Dell customers? I never heard about that. My understanding was that the XL series was too expensive for the US market. People just weren't willing to shell out the $$$ for the fancy bezel, etc.
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Postby Gen-An on Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:28 pm

Ian wrote:Dell customers? I never heard about that. My understanding was that the XL series was too expensive for the US market. People just weren't willing to shell out the $$$ for the fancy bezel, etc.


The trays were too wide for Dell bezels from what I've heard, and there were a lot of complaints.
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Postby Justin42 on Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:45 pm

Ian wrote:
Justin42 wrote:Cool, thanks. I assume the A11XL isn't available in the US, since the recent ones haven't been? :(

At least I know what to look for. :)


If you want a retail drive, look for the DVR-710. It's essentially a DVR-111 in a retail box.


So the 710 will write DVD-RAMs natively? Interesting...

I've heard the Dell case issue as well. Seems like Pioneer could've just slightly narrowed the bezel with no problems. But I have a feeling it's kind of a combination-- they didn't sell enough, and those that did sell had some issues fitting into cases.

I still don't get why-- with the US market as big as it is-- there is no market for a higher end drive, when much smaller markets (Japan, parts of Europe) get the drive no problem..

I love my A07XL. I have had some weird experiences with Ebay, but an A11XL would be pretty cool to have.
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Postby Ian on Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:56 pm

Sorry.. I was wrong. the DVR-710 is a DVR-111D. It doesn't write to DVD-RAM. :(

As I've said in the past, American's are cheap asses. When it comes to optical drives and media, we really don't care about quality.
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