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Windata 8x DVD-Rs?

Postby bix on Sat May 28, 2005 1:25 am

Just curious since Micro Center has these on sale...

VideoHelp.com's media list has a listing for 4x discs as TYG01. Any idea how the 8x are and if they're legit TY?

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Re: Windata 8x DVD-Rs?

Postby Scour on Sun May 29, 2005 2:58 pm

bix wrote:Just curious since Micro Center has these on sale...

VideoHelp.com's media list has a listing for 4x discs as TYG01. Any idea how the 8x are and if they're legit TY?

Thanks,
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Price?

Maybe it´s faked TY from Infosmart
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Postby Maximus1 on Sun May 29, 2005 4:04 pm

Just bought some today. The Windata DVD+R's show they will burn at 16x. The -R's shown below.



Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID TYG02
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 08
2x Speed OPC power 0E
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 13
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 10 0E 07
4x Write Strategy field 2 97 07 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 18
4x Write Strategy field 4 17 85 78 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 D6 89 A8 92 01 20
4x Write Strategy field 6 10 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 AA 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 .....@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG02......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0E 11 ......."" ......

Here is the +R's

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID YUDEN000T02
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Linear Density Blank Disc
Track Density Unknown
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 01 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 .......YUDEN000T
00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7..Nr..c..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun May 29, 2005 6:24 pm

Price?

It might just be Taiyo Yuden's Value Line media. They've had problems with crazy brands popping up selling the media as 8x even though it's 4x rated (with an 8x code).
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Postby Scour on Sun May 29, 2005 6:31 pm

Maximus1 wrote:Just bought some today. The Windata DVD+R's show they will burn at 16x. The -R's shown below.



Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID TYG02
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 08
2x Speed OPC power 0E
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 13
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 10 0E 07
4x Write Strategy field 2 97 07 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 18
4x Write Strategy field 4 17 85 78 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 D6 89 A8 92 01 20
4x Write Strategy field 6 10 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 AA 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 .....@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG02......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0E 11 ......."" ......


I know that the real TY have serial-numbers like TG001158 on the undersite.

Burners don´t know if you insert real TY and they will burn the fakes with the same speed like Faked TY´s because of the same media-code.

Maybe the media-expert Dolph can clarify whether it´s real Taiyo or fakes.
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Postby Maximus1 on Sun May 29, 2005 8:29 pm

I tried the +r's at 16x and about half way through the movie it locks up and skips. Once you get past that it plays fine to the end. When burning it gets to 14x then drops to 8x then goes up to 10x. They may do fine at 12x but I'm not sure. I doubt I'll get anymore.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun May 29, 2005 8:37 pm

Could you please post the serial number(s), and also (for the third time in this thread) please tell us what the price of the media was?
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Postby Maximus1 on Sun May 29, 2005 8:45 pm

$14.99 for 50. Where is the serial #? Only thing I can find is [FP] GZ12. The package says made in Hong Kong.
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Postby Bhairav on Mon May 30, 2005 12:59 am

Maximus1 wrote:$14.99 for 50. Where is the serial #? Only thing I can find is [FP] GZ12. The package says made in Hong Kong.


Fake. Infosmart crap fake media. Real TY is ALWAYS made in Japan..
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Postby Scour on Mon May 30, 2005 3:42 am

Bhairav wrote:
Maximus1 wrote:$14.99 for 50. Where is the serial #? Only thing I can find is [FP] GZ12. The package says made in Hong Kong.


Fake. Infosmart crap fake media. Real TY is ALWAYS made in Japan..


BTW, which DVD-writer do you use?
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Postby Bhairav on Mon May 30, 2005 7:56 am

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Bhairav wrote:
Maximus1 wrote:$14.99 for 50. Where is the serial #? Only thing I can find is [FP] GZ12. The package says made in Hong Kong.


Fake. Infosmart crap fake media. Real TY is ALWAYS made in Japan..


BTW, which DVD-writer do you use?


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Postby Maximus1 on Mon May 30, 2005 8:43 am

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Postby Scour on Mon May 30, 2005 8:54 am

Hello!

The NEC 3500 can burn original TY T02 without problems @16x, how it performs with Infosmart I don´t know.

The Liteon seems to be not good with low quality disc I heard from a friend. Do you burn some Infosmart with it?
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