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Looking to replace an Aopen 48x12x50

Postby aviationwiz on Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:11 am

I'm looking to replace my old Aopen 48x12x50 in one of my systems. I want to get the Premium, but I might not have the money for another one.

What do you guys think is good. I want the best speed and quality. Price, is not really an object, as besides, the Premium and the F1 are the only ones I can't afford.

What do you guys think of the quality of the Mitsumi 54x and the Lite-On 52x (LTR-52246S or LTR-52327S). All Three are fast enough for me.

Can you please hook me up with CD Doctor, K's Probe or Q-Check screens of disks burning on these drives at top speed? I really want to have the C1 Max, Average, and Total. That's why I can't use the WSES screens used on Ian's reviews.

If your going to say that one is good over the other because of the reputation, don't bother posting anything. I am going to be extra cautious when reading the replies, as I know that some people will tell me Lite-On rules without giving me any sort of proof.

The tests would have to be burned on the real burner (not overclocked garbage.)

NOTE: This has nothing to do with recent events carried out in these forums. Do not think that I have given up with Plextor, because I haven't. I simply want to know how these drives perform.
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Postby cfitz on Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:22 am

LOL :lol: Well, I have to give you credit for being brave enough (or is it foolish enough?) to ask a question like this after all the snorting, ground-stomping, chest-thumping and head-butting that has been going on around here lately. I'm not sure what sort of answers you are expecting given recent history and your involvement in it, and I have nothing to contribute since I don't own any of the particular models you are looking for, but I am looking forward to watching the ensuing melee... :wink:

Perhaps this thread will be more civilized, but I don't hold out a lot of hope. 8)

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Postby dhc014 on Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:34 am

I think that you should wait for Ian's review of the LTR-52327S ;)
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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:37 am

I would wait for his review, but I want to get this thing replaced within a month at the very most. When will it be up Ian?

cfitz:

I think it is brave enough. I am not saying at all that either of these drives are better than the Premium. The Premium is, the best. Since people here know more about cheaper CD Burners than I, I am asking them.
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Postby cfitz on Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:44 am

The "brave or foolish" statement was only in reference to your apparent willingness to take the heat that might be directed towards you for asking a question like this at this time. It is a perfectly reasonable question, mind you, it just seems that asking it at a time like this may be looking for trouble. I do hope you get (and give) thoughtful and reasonable replies despite the recent events. 8)

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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:49 am

I'm not looking for an argument here. Just looking for awnsers. Notice that I did not ask for what the best burner overall was. I asked how well each drive performed. No arguments should erupt, but if they should, I am ready to defend my country. (OK, I had to say that, it just fit in well.)
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:48 am

Hrm, I wouldn't recommend the Mitsumi, I wasn't impressed by its' overall performance, but you can make your own decisions on that :wink:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Article ... W&Series=0

As for the LiteON drives... well, the LiteON 52327S is very likely a very good drive, and the LiteON 52246S is considered a a very good drive as well, so I would recommend either one.

On a personal note, I would recommend a LiteON over the Mitsumi for the quality testing options alone! also The Mitsumi doesn't return C2 error info, and therefore cannot test CD-R/Ws :cry: also, it failed to re-write a 32x CD-RW (made by Mitsubishi)!!! :o
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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:55 am

I didn't have high hopes for that Mitsumi. Well, That's Out. Lets see some good ol' spanking C1/C2 Tests on the Lite-On LTR-52246S and the LTR-52327S.
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Re: Looking to replace an Aopen 48x12x50

Postby TheWizard on Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:57 am

aviationwiz wrote:I'm looking to replace my old Aopen 48x12x50


Wow, 48X12X50 drives are OLD now? Where have I been? My 32X10X40 must be ancient! :P
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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:59 am

I don't like the drive, it is ultra loud, and isn't a very good reader.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:32 am

is it just me or is 48x12x50x the wackiest combination of speeds you've ever seen? :lol:
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Postby dhc014 on Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:42 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:is it just me or is 48x12x50x the wackiest combination of speeds you've ever seen? :lol:


I think that my Sony CRX160E (12/8/32) was weirder... The TDK CDRW5200B (52/24/48) is pretty odd as well :D
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:25 am

dhc014 wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:is it just me or is 48x12x50x the wackiest combination of speeds you've ever seen? :lol:


I think that my Sony CRX160E (12/8/32) was weirder... The TDK CDRW5200B (52/24/48) is pretty odd as well :D


okay, you got me with the TDK drive, that *IS* wackier!
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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:43 pm

Anyone have Lite-On results from the LTR-52246S or the LTR-52327S?
It doesn't look to promising to get one, considering no one is posting about the quality.
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Postby Ian on Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:44 pm

aviationwiz wrote:I would wait for his review, but I want to get this thing replaced within a month at the very most. When will it be up Ian?


If you can wait a week or two, you'll have your review.
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Postby cfitz on Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:55 pm

aviationwiz wrote:Anyone have Lite-On results from the LTR-52246S.

If you are truly interested in seeing results for the 52246S then look around the forums here and at CDFreaks. Plenty of people have already posted results from this model.

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Postby CDRecorder on Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:49 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:is it just me or is 48x12x50x the wackiest combination of speeds you've ever seen? :lol:


That's definitely an odd combination. I have a 12x8x36x Philips, which is also an odd combination. :o
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Postby aviationwiz on Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:56 am

Ian wrote:
aviationwiz wrote:I would wait for his review, but I want to get this thing replaced within a month at the very most. When will it be up Ian?


If you can wait a week or two, you'll have your review.


I can wait for the review. I'd rather wait, and see if this new drive is worth it then get the LTR-52246S now and regret it later.

What will you be using for testing the CD Quality? Please use KProbe, CD Doctor or Q-Check.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:13 am

I'm interested in seeing how the LiteON 52327S fairs with 32x CD-RWs!
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Postby aviationwiz on Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:06 pm

From what I've seen on other CD Writers, it won't be able to do 32x RW's very well.
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Postby Ian on Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:40 pm

aviationwiz wrote:From what I've seen on other CD Writers, it won't be able to do 32x RW's very well.


What you talkin about Willis?

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The only thing I've been stumped on is whether or not its using CAV or P-CAV when packet writing. With 400MB of data I'm seeing times of about 2:05 with Nero and about 2:43 with InCD. Unfortunately, Lite-On hasn't been much help in figuring this out.
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Postby aviationwiz on Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:51 pm

Very good!
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Postby KCK on Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:52 pm

Ian:

I presume 2:43 for InCD was for non-MRW.

Here are extracts for CD-RW writing from other reviews.

Code: Select all
______ LTR-48125W PX-W4824A PlexPrem LTR-52246S LTR-52327S
CD-RW      4:35     2:22      2:21      3:09      2:43
CD-MRW     4:52     3:04      3:00      3:31      3:08
Nero       4:28     2:28      2:30      3:38      2:05


Plextor Premium was tested on Verbatim 24x, whereas LTR-52246S on Mitsubishi 24x, with InCD 3.52 and 3.51 respectively. I don't recall what you used for LTR-52327S.

It's amusing to note that for CenDyne 48x Combo on Verbatim 24x with InCD 3.52, the timings (2:30, 3:00, 2:38 ) are quite close to those of Plextor Premium.

I guess aviationwiz will like this comparison! :P
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Postby Ian on Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:58 pm

Nope that wasn't for CD-MRW. Here's some info on the CD-MRW performance though.

Fully formatted disc: ~3:09
Not fully formatted: ~3:07

Or about 3:08 overall.

I used some Mitsubishi/Verbatim 32x media.
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Postby KCK on Tue Jun 24, 2003 7:09 pm

Thanks for the clarification, Ian. I've edited my post accordingly.
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