Media Compatibility With CD-RW Drives - Which Media Is Best?

[glock20rocks]

glock20rocks: What is the maximum successful burn speed without errors for the TDK 48X discs? You said 24X had 2-5 damaged sectors, so perhaps 16X would be error free.

These worked OK at 16x. Fuji 40x/24x discs work great at 40x, the 48x burn at 40x w/o errors. Not so at 48x Sorry it took so long to respond!!

Can't wait to get the 48x Plextor, ordered it a few days ago. The Lite-On works great at 40x, but I do want a 48x. Almost got he TDK 52x; I know it's a Lite-On, but the 52's seem to have much better media compatiblity than the 48125W. Just wish I would've waited and got the 48x24x48x Lite On. Oh well...I'll have a Plextor soon! Although that 48x24x48x16 Samsung looked good...oh well...

[Mystery Man]

Did anyone have experience with TDK GOLD CDR? What is the maximum speed that it can burn at? The label didn't stated the maximum speed but only stated mulitspeed. Think of getting a spindle of 50. Thanks in advance for the information.

Yes i just tested the tdk gold cd's that came in a 50 spindle pack. My cdr is the new liteon LTR-52246S drive. I tested with easy cd creator 5. I have a prog called cdr identifier.

According to that prog they are made by CMC Magnetics Corp. The burn started at 26X. Towards the end it actually got up to 54X. On it i burned a full 700 mb video file.

Then launched nero cd speed and scandisked it. All were green except for last block which was red. According to someone else this prog does that sometimes.




I also tested a tdk cd that is white in color with easy cd creator 5 and is rated up to 48X. cdr identifier says its made by ritek Co. It came in a bundle of 50 as well. Burning started at 23X then towards end of burn amazingly got up to 55X. I also tested it with nero's cd speed prog. All blocks were green

[TheWizard]

To all you nay-sayers, there is more media that will burn at 52X error free on the LTR-52246S. Thanks for the contribution, Mystery Man. If you compile more results down the road, don't keep them to yourself.

[Mystery Man]

Ok i thought then i might as well test the ricoh 1-32x cd's that i have here even tho i think they are in the list. These are a goldy color and also came in a bundle of 50. I burned a 700 mb movie again burn started at 22X and got up to 54X. Tested the cd with nero's cd speed. Scaned it. Got all green except for two red dots. One right at end and the other on bottom row near beginning. Tested the movie. Works perfect. I find that easy cd creator is a faster burning prog than nero. I quite like it. For my burning tests with it i had smart burn & buffer underun off. Had no buffer probs.

[TheWizard]

Hmm, a red block in the first row near the beginning? That's not flawless. Try knocking the recording speed down to 48X instead of 52X and see if the red block at the beginning still appears.

Also, do you know the manufacturer of the Ricoh media? Look in CDR Identifier.

[Mystery Man]

Na both red blocks on bottom row. One at the very end and the other near the beginning of that last row. Altho not absolutely perfect. But not bad. Movie works ok.

Disk manufacture is Ricoh Company LTD

[TheWizard]

Nevertheless, that's still a flaw. The only exception is the very last block which always comes up red when you record a disc with Track-at-Once.

[Mystery Man]

I re did it at 48x. Got up to 50X. Did test and got 21 yellow blocks on second bottom row.

Then reburned at 40x all green that time. Speed up to 44X

[Mystery Man]

I also have the Ricoh MP7240A 24X that the liteon replaced. I mainly updated because of cdrom compatability probs. Those ricoh cd's wouldnt even work in it. The tdk's were about the only brand that i know that worked in it. I think there was on or two other brands but that was about it. That drive is going in my second machine when i upgrade this machine. So its not in a puter at the moment

[Mystery Man]

By the way my firmware is 6S07. On the liteonit page thats the latest revision. Where do you get the 6S08 revision from and whats it supposed to fix?

[TheWizard]

Ah, 40X for the Ricoh discs, still good considering they are only rated 32X. Thanks again for the results, Mystery Man.

By the way, check out this thread for more info about firmware version 6S08...

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=8159

[Gary Kokkin]

I just bought Philips 50disc spindle 32x in same price as 48x with a black Philips logo on the disc (not in Taiwan's 48x). All disc ID programs say Ritek made disc but the package label says "Made in Germany" 2 times with LOT codes ,around spindle .BTW burn in 48x is without errors at all . What happened ? Ritek bought or made factory in Germany ? or Germany factory use Ritek materials? - Also package look stronger than other spindles - Germany quality by Philips ?

Notice: there are 2 licensees Philips factories in Germany :
1)Fuji Photo Film Co., Ltd.
2)PrimeDisc Technologies GmbH

http://www.licensing.philips.com/li.../licensees.html

[TheWizard]

Since the discs are rated 32X, they are obviously older than Philips' 40X and 48X discs, so maybe Philips did have a plant in Germany making Ritek CD-R's. Another thing to be careful of, the "Made in Germany" sign may be referring to something else, perhaps the case that the CD-R's are packaged in. Case in point, I have a TDK CD-RW disc that says "Made in Ireland" on the case, but on the paper insert inside the jewel case it says "Made in Singapore" which is what I expect from Mitsubishi Chemicals. Chances are the case was made in Ireland and the disc was made in Singapore.

By the way, what burner did you use with the Philips 32X discs? You never specified in your post.

[Nhawk]

Check out my media tests on several LiteOn drives with different firmware
Link

I added 6S0A tests with all my media...you have to check it out, it's a major improvement

[Kennyshin]

I just bought Philips 50disc spindle 32x in same price as 48x with a black Philips logo on the disc (not in Taiwan's 48x). All disc ID programs say Ritek made disc but the package label says "Made in Germany" 2 times with LOT codes ,around spindle .BTW burn in 48x is without errors at all . What happened ? Ritek bought or made factory in Germany ? or Germany factory use Ritek materials? - Also package look stronger than other spindles - Germany quality by Philips ?

Notice: there are 2 licensees Philips factories in Germany :
1)Fuji Photo Film Co., Ltd.
2)PrimeDisc Technologies GmbH

http://www.licensing.philips.com/li.../licensees.html

Companies like Ritek, Taiyo Yuden, and many others have factories all over the world, Malaysia, Japan, South Korea, China, Singapore, Indonesia, Hong Kong, the United States, India, the United Kingdom, Germany, Switzerland, and many other countries, to save shipping cost and evade tariff.

Look at these links:

http://www.ritek.com.tw/ritek_e/office/index.htm

http://www.ty-top.com/contact/contact.html

http://cmc.taiwanet.com

In approaching the global market, CMC has 16 facilities worldwide to support production demand. Currently CMC has 8 domestic factories in Taiwan with extended production network in China, in HK, Mexico, UK, Ireland and the USA. There are several strategic regional sales offices to ensure prompt and responsive local services.

And there are Princo, Infodisc, SKC, Gigastorage, Prodisc, Lead Data, Mitsubishi...

[TheWizard]

Thanks Nhawk

[Videoman]

Drive: Yamaha CRW-F1 (44-24-44)
Firmware 1.0f

Disc: Verbatim DataLifePlus 48x Super AZO 80min
reported as:
ATIP: 97m 34s 23f
Disc Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemicals Corp.
Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 73f / LBA: 359848)
Not bad for Disk T@2 (metal azo is better, darker)
44x burn (Optimum Write Speed Enabled)
Zero errors w/CDquality & Scandisc (except for last block unreadable bug)


Disc: Memorex 40x 80min
reported as:
ATIP: 97m 26s 66f
Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corp.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)
Bad for Disk T@2
44x burn (Optimum Write Speed Enabled)
Zero errors w/CDquality & Scandisc (except for last block unreadable bug)

Tested both media with CRW-F1 and LG8160b(because it can report c2 errors)
I was surprised that the Memorex 40 speed wrote at 44 speed, (the drive picked the speed based on the media quality, not me. Thats Optimum Write Speed for those that don't know).
I purchased a 20 pack of the Verbatims today at Staples for $4.98 CDN (mail-in rebate+instant store credit).That's only $0.25 each including slim cases. For all you F1 users, get out there and grab this deal.

[TheWizard]

Alright! Finally, some Yamaha F1 results! Thanks Videoman! Keep the results coming!

[Spazmogen]

Verbatim 48x (Super Azo DataLifePlus).

Lite On LTR-52246s (52x24x52x) 6S0A firmware
Win XP. 7200rpm IDE HDD.

I confirm your posted results of these discs @ 52x error free.

I just did a 700mb Symantec Ghost image using Nero @ a full 52x. Checked and it's error free.


Move over TY. There's a new high speed player in town. And he's Made In Mexico!

[Burn2death]

On my LG 8481B FW 1.02 (48x24x48)

Verbatim Super Azo 48x rated @48x 100% OK, no errors in scandisk and CD Quality check

Fuji (TY) 24x rated @48x 100% OK, no errors in scandisk and CD Quality check

eProformace (Prodisk) 32x rated @40x 100% OK, no errors in scandisk and CD Quality check

Smartbuy (Prodisk) 32x rated @40x 100% OK, no errors in scandisk and CD Quality check

I have not had any errors when writing at Max speed with any CDs yet, CD-R or CD-RW, maybe I should look for some cheaper CDs and tested out and see what happens.

[TheWizard]

LG is good like that, they like any media you put in the drive. My GCE-8240B and GCE-8320B are the same way.

Thanks Burn2death

[lppnet]

Media info captured from SMART-BURN:
This Disc is designed for CD-RW/COMBO Drive Only.
Disc Type, Material = CD-R, Cyanine
ATIP Lead-in = 97m 34s 23f
Norminal Capacity = 702.83MB (79m 59s 73f)
Disc Manufacturer maybe = Mistubishi,Colombo
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 52X

Burn at 52x with my Liteon LTR-52246S (6S07). Click below link for the test result. It used Mitsubishi's Sonic AZO dye and made in Taiwan. For me, I liked this media a lot because can get it cheap in Malaysia and burn up to 52x . Tell me how you all fair the quality of this CDR. It is reliable?

http://www.geocities.com/lppnet/mit1.htm

[liteonrules]

these are the results i had using the new firmware and error free
16X HP (TY) BURN AT 32X
40XIMATION (CMC) BURN AT 40X
48XIMATION (CMC)BURN AT 48X
40XMAXELL (RITEK)BURN AT 48X
40XFUGI(TY) BURN AT 48X
48XFUGI(TY) BURN AT 48X
16X PNY I THINK(CMC) BURN AT 48X
16X DURABRAND WALMART (CMC) BURN AT 40X
40x MEMOREX (CMC) BURN AT 40X
32X MEMOREX(TY) BURN AT 32X

[TheWizard]

Burn at 52x with my Liteon LTR-52246S (6S07). Click below link for the test result. It used Mitsubishi's Sonic AZO dye and made in Taiwan. For me, I liked this media a lot because can get it cheap in Malaysia and burn up to 52x . Tell me how you all fair the quality of this CDR. It is reliable?

http://www.geocities.com/lppnet/mit1.htm

Verbatim/Mitsubishi DataLifePlus discs are excellent quality. I trust all my important data on Verbatim/Mitsubishi CD-RW discs, and I know the CD-R's are just as good. Thanks for the added result, lppnet.

[TheWizard]

Many thanks, liteonrules! It's about time we got more results for the Optorite CW4802, and it performed pretty well! Many people have bad-mouthed this drive, but something told me that it had more potential, and these results proved it! I guess the new firmware version DOES make a difference!