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Postby CowboySlim on Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:22 pm

I think that, tig, you are missing the point. Which is: it's a hobby, part of the game. Taking 'em back to the store, selling 'em on Ebay, having more than will fit in your machine (look at the sigs) is like collecting and trading baseball cards and model train stuff.

Now, let's look at the flawed analogy of returning an automobile to the store. It's against the law! The minute you drive it across the sideway and off the dealer's property, it's yours and forever. Now if the law were otherwise that would compel dealers to accept returns for full cash refund within 30 days, what percentage do you think would be returned?

10-4, good buddy, over and out.
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Postby tig2002 on Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:40 pm

CowboySlim, I understand your point. My example of car purchase is not for "return for refund" comparison. My point is that I am happy with my Isuzu because I am happy with what I paid and what I got. Of course the ride quality is not as good as Lexus’ and features are not comparable. But for the money – it is much better than Lexus. I have the money for Lexus, but I do not want to buy one because I need a safe SUV with seatbelts and airbags for everyday driving and towing my boat at week-ends. I do not need sunroof, spoiler and other crap just for looks and compliments. This is my opinion, and you may not agree.
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Postby CowboySlim on Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:55 pm

10-4, sig, roger that.

I got'um SUV, too, but with all the trimmings. I wanted most of the trimmings but not the sunroof which I don't use. However, had to get in package with the stuff I did want.

Now, that being typed, I'll be taking it to the Arizona Strip the weekend prior to Memorial Day W/E and you are welcome. Shall we meet at the Bloomington Wal*Mart parking lot at noon on that Saturday or at the Shell station the other side of the I15?
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Postby ETP on Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:12 am

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Postby ETP on Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:13 am

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Postby ETP on Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:19 am

Just for Slim//LOL
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Postby CowboySlim on Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:51 am

Hmmmmmmmmmm.............................

I getting some good burns off my M/A Aopen now. I'm also getting DVDs that play in both my CyberHome players (different S/Ws) by using the Maxell DVD-Rs, 8X (the Fuji (TYs) CD+Rs, 8X would only play in one of them).

So the M/A is faster that the NEC ND-3500 but not is fast as the Plex 716A?

10-4
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Postby TCAS on Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:58 pm

This is to vertify that etp is right that this drive is fast reader of D/L disk, not just D/L but for S/L is also very fast. I have run two "Transfer Rate (Ripping) " tests on both DVD-Video of S/L and D/L both pressed (protected) disks. Notice both S/L and D/L are not full capacitated (loaded) disk otherwise results would have been even more promisising.
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Postby ETP on Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:25 pm

Thanks TCAS for the alert! TCAS original alert!
"""""Office Max has DVD +/-RW from Micro Advantage Model No. 16DDVDRW-A13 for $39 flat with no rebate involve. This drive has spec as follow:

Writing Speed : DVD+R at 16X
DVD-R at 8X
+/-RW at 4X
DVD+R (D/L) at 2.4

CD-R at 48X
CD-RW at 24X


These specification matches Sone DVD Burner Model No.710A. Does any one know who actually makes this drive?.""""""

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Postby TCAS on Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:19 am

As you guys can see from my graphical presentation, I have had the drive flashed with genuine AOPEN r.108 f/w which the drive string now identified as "AOPEN DUW1608/ARR. If I am not wrong the drive is function better now with this r.108 f/w and again I like to emphasis as etp has said it before and tig2002 stated this drive is really fast reader (ripper) way better than Lite-ON 1633S and NEC 3500 as I have experienced with both of those drive.
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Postby TCAS on Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:15 pm

I have performed test on the drive with genuine AOPEN f/wr.108 with drive string as AOPEN using TDK DVD+R (4X) MID RICOHJPNR01, the drive as we know is kind of slow with respect to other drives in burning process (in this case took + 16 minutes to burn 4X disk) but the quality of burnt disk to my experience is very good. Notice the same 4X disk can be burned by my NEC 3500 with mod f/w at speed of 12X.
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Postby TCAS on Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:34 am

The D/L DVD Video (protected) was ripped (Transfer Rate) both with NEC 3500 with Riplock removed modded f/w (fig #1) and with AOPEN 1608 with stock (Original AOPEN r.108) f/w (fig # 2). We can see clearly that AOPEN 1608 drive even with stock f/w is way faster than NEC 3500 with RipLock Removed modded f/w.
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Postby ETP on Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:28 pm

TCAS! This is an outstanding CD ripper! =D> =D> =D> 48x read/48xburn

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Postby ETP on Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:32 pm

I will definately look at their next product very closely :)

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Postby TCAS on Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:58 pm

If AOPEN come up with new revision of f/w for this drive to improve the burning speed then we could claim this drive stands tall among other brands to rocken with. May be others do the modding of f/w for this to increase not just the burning rate but also the ripping.
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Postby ETP on Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:05 am

Lets see if DBs can help!

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Postby ETP on Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:24 am

TCAS/RIPIT/SLIM/ETC

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=33894

Lets see if anyone can help!

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Postby ETP on Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:14 am

Also posted this at Freaks site!

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=133067

It doesn't look good so far,but who knows!

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Postby TCAS on Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:55 pm

ETP wrote:Also posted this at Freaks site!

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=133067

It doesn't look good so far,but who knows!


Etp; that is a good idea to put the issue on the table at the different forum, I might ask Quikee-2 and Dee-27 the modifiers of NEC f/w if they could take look on this issue.
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Postby TCAS on Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:11 pm

etp/ripit/slim;

Look in to the following thread seeking for help:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=133111
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Postby CowboySlim on Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:54 pm

I'm only guessing at this, but when it is CLV, perhaps you can't do more. Does it make sense that comparing a CAV and a CLV drive, both with the same starting speed, say 4x, and the same ending speed, like 12x, that the CAV will always have the faster average?

10-4?

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Postby dodecahedron on Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:13 am

CowboySlim wrote:Does it make sense that comparing a CAV and a CLV drive, both with the same starting speed, say 4x, and the same ending speed, like 12x, that the CAV will always have the faster average?

yes, it does.
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Postby TCAS on Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:09 pm

That is not true, as CD-Freaks in thier evaluation of this drive on 1/31/05 are pointing out that :

"The next point is the 16x DVD+R CAV writing technique that leads to faster burns when compared with 16x Z-CLV."
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Postby ETP on Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:58 am

You think if we whine enough someone would tinker with the FW? LOL :roll:

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Postby TCAS on Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:56 pm

Let's see what will it happen. This drive deserve attention in my opinion.
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