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Postby RJW on Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:28 am

it's not that easy according to my information (which I checked with +R media ) TDK doesn't state the manufactureing country on the box any more.
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Postby Scour on Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:14 pm

Hello!

I looked at my TDK DVD-R 8x 10er Cakebox. I can see the address of TDK Europe in Luxembourg, but nothing about Made in ...

BTW, the Code is TTG02.
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Postby Gen-An on Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:42 pm

Scour wrote:
RJW wrote:
But let me first start with answering some stuff.
It is possible that a production fault can change the code from TTH01 to TTG01 or TTG02 or TTH02 (TDK's 16x code !!) and the other way arround.
Just mispress it !!


The TTH are made in Europe, the TTG in Taiwan, is this right?

So if I read Taiwan on the package, it is TTG?


Not necessarily. There is TTH02 made in Taiwan by CMC.
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Postby frank1 on Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:49 am

Actualy at the back on the jewels boxes I bought this year in Europe:

- TTH01 (DVD-R 8x ScratchProof) you have the 3 adresses: Luxembourg, Australia & Singapore
- TTH02 (DVD-R 16x) you have only the adress of Luxembourg left
There is not anymore any indication of "Made in ..."


In the days of the 4x certified era the situation was different, for example I have 3 jewels boxes of 4x DVD-R with 3 different MID codes:
- TYG01: Made in Japan
- DVD +R 4x "RicohJPN-R01-002": Made in Taiwan
- TTG01: no indication Made in ...
So my conclusion is that on most of the 8x and 16x certified media
the indication "Made in ... " just disapeared.
On some the are printed 3 adresses and on others just one adress left (Luxembourg)



I think that we need somebody to visist
the factory at Basharage in the "Grand Duchy of Luxembourg" to see what is really manufactured there ...
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Postby dodecahedron on Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:50 am

the addresses don't mean anything (as far as manufacturing goes) - just locations of coprorate offices.
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Postby frank1 on Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:14 am

What I realy like to know is why
this spindle of "traditional TDK blue" DVD-R 8x that I bought in Europe
show up as TTH01 instead of the awaited TTG02 in other parts of the world ?


DVD-R 8x "traditional TDK blue"
Image TTH01



Usualy this TTH01 code only showed up
for the grey DVD-R 8x ScratchProof
Image TTH01

or for the the Photo Quality injekt printable:
Image also TTH01
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Postby Scour on Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:14 am

frank1 wrote:- TTG01: no indication Made in ...


I have here a 25er Cakebox of TDK DVD-R 4x with TTG01-code, and I can read "Made in Taiwan"
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Postby RJW on Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:02 am

The first batches of 8x media of TDK did show the country in which the disc's were made.
only the first batches packageing style is very close to 4x for these disc's.
(I can still get the +R version of these at quite high costs. (The reason why this stock is still there. :lol: )
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Postby RJW on Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:05 am

frank1 wrote:What I realy like to know is why
this spindle of "traditional TDK blue" DVD-R 8x that I bought in Europe
show up as TTH01 instead of the awaited TTG02 in other parts of the world ?
?


Maybe a reason of availability ??
It is possible that TDK could only get there european manufacturerd media on time to some of the big customers. (It's not the first time we see brands makeing a move with a different manufactureing place because they want the media to be on time at a specific place.)
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Postby frank1 on Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:07 pm

I like to add this info about the TTH01 media code:

This webshop called CD folie:
http://www.cdfolie.com/index.php?sid=fa ... x=1&cat=67

sells spindles of 50 DVD-R TDK 8x ScratchProof for 33 €,
so it is only 66 cents a piece (without expedition cost)

In this shop they have 5 types of blanks from TDK that they call "top quality"
and they annouce that
they are all manufactured by TDK in their factory in Luxembourg


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You can see photos of samples
here in this post:
http://forum.gravure-news.com/candidats ... m?start=13
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Postby Scour on Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:16 pm

frank1 wrote:In this shop they have 5 types of blanks from TDK that they call "top quality"
and they annouce that
they are all manufactured by TDK in their factory in Luxembourg


Anyone tried this media? I know there´s also media from MAM with this code
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Postby RJW on Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:39 pm

Based on current research I suggest to not use MAM's products.
Current research is makeing me have mayor doubts about the origin of MAM's code !!
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Postby Scour on Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:49 pm

RJW wrote:Based on current research I suggest to not use MAM's products.
Current research is makeing me have mayor doubts about the origin of MAM's code !!


You mean the used TTH01-code? Or MAM´s own codes?
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Postby frank1 on Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:51 am

This time I think that you are not seeing the problem the right way

The company running the CDfolie webshop is based in Sarrebrueken (Germany) which is distant
from the TDK factory of Basharage in Luxemburg from only about 40 km.
So why should they trade with MAM and take the risk to advertise "top quality" products made by TDK in Luxemburg ?


Anyone tried this media?
On top of that if you have a close look at the photo
it is printed TDK (in white) around the "inner ring" on the samples
used by jubus:
http://forum.gravure-news.com/candidats ... m?start=13

Anyway I will find out for sure some time because I live in the area
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:33 am

RJW wrote:Based on current research I suggest to not use MAM's products.
Current research is makeing me have mayor doubts about the origin of MAM's code !!


Maybe it's time we asked TDK ourselves?
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Postby RJW on Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:54 pm

Getting this type of questions answered from TDK seems to be very hard.
I allways get a fast response except about the whole MID abuse questions.
With some luck we might have it befor the end of the year. :o

And incase of MAM's code I was speaking about the TTH01 code.
We allready know that they abuse(d) the codes of MCC and Taiyo Yuden.

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Postby Scour on Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:38 pm

RJW wrote:Getting this type of questions answered from TDK seems to be very hard.
I allways get a fast response except about the whole MID abuse questions.
With some luck we might have it befor the end of the year. :o

And incase of MAM's code I was speaking about the TTH01 code.
We allready know that they abuse(d) the codes of MCC and Taiyo Yuden.

:o


MAM used MCC-Codes? I know the TY, but don´t have heard of MCC.
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Postby RJW on Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:17 am

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Postby frank1 on Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:51 am

I am not talking about MCC or TY codes
but only about a TTH01 code with TDK printed around the hub


All "top quality" products:
http://www.cdfolie.com/index.php?sid=fa ... x=1&cat=67

TTH01 MID code:
http://www.cdfolie.com/index.php?pageNa ... RO_8x_c/50
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Postby RJW on Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:20 pm

I was reacting still on the MAM-E TTH01 disc's.
And I do think that it was interesting to comment on these disc's because quite some people are thinking that if they buy the cheaper MAM-E disc's that they end up with the same disc's which I personally really doubt.*

* Let me explain here why so far the stampercodes of MAM's disc are not like TDK's own media made by TDK and CMC(!). So not the real stamper was used which does give me huge doubts about the origin. Even more if CMC makes comments about the fact that only production with official TDK stampers is allowed !

So Untill TDK or MAM clear it up I would say that MAM's also abuseing the TTH01 code. And that are the last words untill the compannies respond about the MAM usseing a TTH01 code on this topic.


Incase of cdfollie the disc's are genuine. (Stamper code matches TDK style).
Still there probally is one very bad thing incase of cdfollie I don't see if shipping to the netherlands is possible. :lol:
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Postby frank1 on Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:19 am

RJW wrote:Incase of cdfollie the disc's are genuine. (Stamper code matches TDK style)
Thanks for your opinion RJW


RJW wrote:Still there probally is one very bad thing incase of cdfollie I don't see if shipping to the netherlands is possible.
The company running Cdfolie is located in Sarrebrueken (Germany):
Cdfolie
Metzersrasse 135
D 66117 Saarbruecken.
CRFR@cdfolie.com
contact@cdfolie.com


And I think here is their multilingual website:
http://www.cdfolie.co9.de/
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Postby frank1 on Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:03 pm

The pictures of the 8x certified DVD-R ScratchProof have been removed from the site of TDK Europe
So I think this is not a good news
for the perennity of the fabulous TTH01 media code (DVD-R 8x)



They have been replaced by 1~16x certified DVD-R & DVD+R (in amaray boxes):
http://www.tdk-europe.com/index.php?id= ... 11cvde35q3



Image MID code TDK-003 ?

TDK DVD+R 16x Scratchproof with a TDK-003 code have been on the market for some time
because "bitburners" tested them around 12 September 2005:
http://www.bitburners.com/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=36





Image MID code TTH02 ?

I have already bought TDK DVD-R 16x non ScratchProof: they have a TTH02 media code and a label of of a deep blue color.
But so far I have not seen any ScratchProof TDK DVD-R 16x in shops in Europe


Shoud I believe that both of these new 16x ScratchProof TDK DVD Rs (of media code TDK-003 and TTH02 ?)
are manufactured in Luxembourg



Are there going to be other Scratchproof or DURABIS* DVD's
of the brand TDK manufactured in Asia on the market somewhere ?
with the same or different MID codes ?
I don't know !
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Postby RJW on Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:47 am

Feurio webstore has been selling scratchproof 16x +R media for more then a month now if I'm right.
(packaged in jewelcases !)

CMC makes disc's with TTH02 code for TDK (non scratchproof !)
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Postby [buck] on Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:50 pm

I have some absolutely fabulous Luxembourg TTH02 from Costco, for under $0.24 CDN/disc. CMC also makes TTH02 for TDK...
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:49 pm

Rencor wrote:I have some absolutely fabulous Luxembourg TTH02 from Costco, for under $0.24 CDN/disc. CMC also makes TTH02 for TDK...


Yup.... you're lucky! Some others got some much less then "absolutely favulous" TDK media in the same sale. The quality seems to vary worse then B Grade Optodisc (as in, it could be great or a coaster or anything in between).
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